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AIBU?

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Primary train trip to London

74 replies

Gwdihooooo · 04/11/2022 19:14

Aibu to allow my dd (9) to go on a day trip to London with 60 other kids from her school?

The ratio is 2:8.

My main worry is her getting lost from the group!

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Pinkflipflop85 · 04/11/2022 19:44

We take our classes to London trips on the train from Year 1 onwards. Doesn't even warrant a second thought!

viques · 04/11/2022 19:44

I hope they are going to Matilda ! They will love it. A London theatre show is an amazing experience.

RewildingAmbridge · 04/11/2022 19:44

Odd way to express the ratio, it's 1:4 , lots of people have 4 children. Each adult will be responsible for two pairs of buddies who will be told to stay close to each other etc. There will be two adults in each group of right to enable toilet supervision etc. As a teacher you must know this. I can't begin to imagine how many head counts there will be, plus if you get delayed plans when they get to their destination (museum etc)
Schools here are on trips in London often, we're in the home counties.

RewildingAmbridge · 04/11/2022 19:45

*"if you get separated plans"

RedAppleTree · 04/11/2022 19:46

A theatre trip is a great experience. but why London at that age? Are there no shows for kids in Manchester or Leeds?

Glendaruel · 04/11/2022 19:47

We went to London from a tiny village in north Yorkshire when I was at primary to see the armada exhibition at greenwich. I still remember it. My teacher wanted us to see the world outside our classroom and village. We talked about it for ages after. If it was my child I would love them to have that experience I had.

Gwdihooooo · 04/11/2022 19:52

viques · 04/11/2022 19:44

I hope they are going to Matilda ! They will love it. A London theatre show is an amazing experience.

Mary Poppins

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QueSyrahSyrah · 04/11/2022 19:54

RedAppleTree · 04/11/2022 19:46

A theatre trip is a great experience. but why London at that age? Are there no shows for kids in Manchester or Leeds?

To be honest I have to agree with this. A 6 hour round trip for a show is a lot, unless they're combining it with something else in London?

The Playhouse in Leeds has Charlie & the Chocolate Factory on from next week through to end of Jan, magic for kids and not nearly as arduous a day out for them (and the poor teachers!).

Clymene · 04/11/2022 19:54

RedAppleTree · 04/11/2022 19:39

Sounds like a long day for 9 year olds. Are you forced to send them? I wouldn't.

Oh for goodness sake

Gwdihooooo · 04/11/2022 19:55

RewildingAmbridge · 04/11/2022 19:44

Odd way to express the ratio, it's 1:4 , lots of people have 4 children. Each adult will be responsible for two pairs of buddies who will be told to stay close to each other etc. There will be two adults in each group of right to enable toilet supervision etc. As a teacher you must know this. I can't begin to imagine how many head counts there will be, plus if you get delayed plans when they get to their destination (museum etc)
Schools here are on trips in London often, we're in the home counties.

Yeah it was an odd way. I just knew there were 2-8 so wrote it as that.

I’m secondary. Primary school kids in their masses freak me out! Give me a bunch of teenagers any day!!

Thanks for the reassurance, I appreciate it.

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Gwdihooooo · 04/11/2022 19:56

Glendaruel · 04/11/2022 19:47

We went to London from a tiny village in north Yorkshire when I was at primary to see the armada exhibition at greenwich. I still remember it. My teacher wanted us to see the world outside our classroom and village. We talked about it for ages after. If it was my child I would love them to have that experience I had.

I’m not denying it’ll be a great experience. I’m just nervous as it’s very new to me and dd

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CherylCrows · 04/11/2022 19:56

Gwdihooooo · 04/11/2022 19:42

How so? There are many people on here who worry about outdoor resi trips for their kids… which I find odd. But I can explain why

It’s odd to be worried about your 9 year old on a school trip regardless of where the trip is located.

Overprotective twaddle

Gwdihooooo · 04/11/2022 19:57

QueSyrahSyrah · 04/11/2022 19:54

To be honest I have to agree with this. A 6 hour round trip for a show is a lot, unless they're combining it with something else in London?

The Playhouse in Leeds has Charlie & the Chocolate Factory on from next week through to end of Jan, magic for kids and not nearly as arduous a day out for them (and the poor teachers!).

The train journey to London is easier than Leeds… although Manchester would be the easiest.

They’re going to the science museum too.

I’m not denying it’ll be a good day out

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spanieleyes · 04/11/2022 19:58

Ours always wore brightly coloured baseball caps, the snazzier, the better!

Gwdihooooo · 04/11/2022 20:00

CherylCrows · 04/11/2022 19:56

It’s odd to be worried about your 9 year old on a school trip regardless of where the trip is located.

Overprotective twaddle

I’m certainly not over protective. An example is my 9yr old has sleeping out on scafell pike wild at aged 6 and doing her first alpine via ferrata at aged 3. It’s not about being over protective. It’s about not being in this situation before and gauging whether it’s okay

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QueSyrahSyrah · 04/11/2022 20:02

@Gwdihooooo Aah that makes more sense than just the show then.

I was at school in Leeds and we went to London a few times but never in primary, and even in secondary it was always by coach rather than train, at the time presumably that was cheaper for 40+ of us.

NancyJoan · 04/11/2022 20:04

One adult with 4 children will be fine, honestly. They will count them every five minutes and train them in how to get on and off the tube. She will be as safe as anyone can be in London (which to me is very safe), just like you and your charges are as safe as you can be on the side of a mountain.

Gwdihooooo · 04/11/2022 20:05

QueSyrahSyrah · 04/11/2022 20:02

@Gwdihooooo Aah that makes more sense than just the show then.

I was at school in Leeds and we went to London a few times but never in primary, and even in secondary it was always by coach rather than train, at the time presumably that was cheaper for 40+ of us.

It’s pretty reasonable to be fair… £60 for the whole day Inc travel, lunch and theatre

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Needmorelego · 04/11/2022 20:05

One adult to 4 kids is pretty good. They will be counted every 10 seconds.
But..worse case scenario tips (hopefully
The school will probably tell the children this) - make sure she knows which London railway station they are arriving at. Because there are several. What the full name of her school is and what town it's in (because there's 100s of "St Mary's/Grange/North Road" Primary Schools out there. The full name of the teacher in charge.
If - and this is a massive if because it would be very unusual to happen - she gets separated this information will be important and helpful to tell to the police so they can reunite her with the group.
Also make sure she knows who to approach if separated. Police is the obvious one but if she can't find a Police Officer then a shop/railway station/tube worker should be who she goes to. Tell her she is to stay with them and the police should come to her.

Gwdihooooo · 04/11/2022 20:05

NancyJoan · 04/11/2022 20:04

One adult with 4 children will be fine, honestly. They will count them every five minutes and train them in how to get on and off the tube. She will be as safe as anyone can be in London (which to me is very safe), just like you and your charges are as safe as you can be on the side of a mountain.

Thank you

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Gwdihooooo · 04/11/2022 20:06

Needmorelego · 04/11/2022 20:05

One adult to 4 kids is pretty good. They will be counted every 10 seconds.
But..worse case scenario tips (hopefully
The school will probably tell the children this) - make sure she knows which London railway station they are arriving at. Because there are several. What the full name of her school is and what town it's in (because there's 100s of "St Mary's/Grange/North Road" Primary Schools out there. The full name of the teacher in charge.
If - and this is a massive if because it would be very unusual to happen - she gets separated this information will be important and helpful to tell to the police so they can reunite her with the group.
Also make sure she knows who to approach if separated. Police is the obvious one but if she can't find a Police Officer then a shop/railway station/tube worker should be who she goes to. Tell her she is to stay with them and the police should come to her.

This is really useful thank you x

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CombatBarbie · 04/11/2022 20:17

What time are they leaving! /coming back? 3hrs travel time plus a show and the science museum 😳

Gwdihooooo · 04/11/2022 20:21

7-9…. Loooong day. But I’m not too fussed about that as most of it is sitting down, chatting with friends. I’ll put uno in her bag

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RewildingAmbridge · 04/11/2022 20:26

The science museum is fantastic for that age group, and there's nothing quite like the west end. She'll remember it for a long time given it's not a place she'd usually visit.
If it makes you feel better give her a little card to carry in her pocket with your number and name on it, but they will be watched like hawks and as I said 1:4 is more like a family ratio rather than a school trip one

ManefesationofConciousness · 04/11/2022 20:30

QueSyrahSyrah · 04/11/2022 19:54

To be honest I have to agree with this. A 6 hour round trip for a show is a lot, unless they're combining it with something else in London?

The Playhouse in Leeds has Charlie & the Chocolate Factory on from next week through to end of Jan, magic for kids and not nearly as arduous a day out for them (and the poor teachers!).

Probably takes longer to get to Leeds
No direct train !