To not want to pay £35 for a tutor who has no experience outside of trainings?

[Gmamaofboys13]

I'm North West Lancashire, looking for a tutor for my son. Contacted a few tutors and enquired about qualifications, experiences, fees ect. One tutor graduated from uni/ qualified as a teacher in 2016/7, hasn't completed or even started the Newly Qualified year in Teacher training, hasn't worked in a school or directly with children since, has no experience post qualification with children in a school setting, and as far as I am aware no other employment experience, ...but is charging £35 per hour for zoom sessions.

Where there are other tutors who have worked in schools as qualified school teachers for 10-15 years+ charging less...

I wouldn't pay that much as that's more than the top of the main pay scale for teachers.
I'd happily pay that for an experienced teacher though and think some teachers undervalue themselves when they move into private tutoring by setting a rate that doesn't reflect the years of refining their craft.

Nope I wouldn't pay that for an inexperienced teacher over zoom.

Keep looking op. Maybe ask your child's school if they can suggest someone.

I pay that for a retired head teacher in science for gsce.

I paid a a level student £20 an hour for maths and she was great. Dd improved 3 grades.

Maybe look for someone like that.

Then don't? Having previously worked as a teacher, I wouldn't think that experience in teaching actually makes you a remotely good teacher by the way. Many experienced teachers are only doing it because they're too incompetent to do anything and it's almost impossible to get rid of bad teachers just for being bad (obviously this isn't the case for many others but I wouldn't use experience as a judgement of quality here). No one is forcing you to hire this tutor so just don't - what an odd issue? "Something I don't want is more money than I want to pay but there are cheaper options that I'm happy with". I don't actually get what you're complaining about?

Actually, many teachers are doing tutoring to supplement their wages or pay for their DC's hobby.

OP, I charge that rate. I have 20 years experience and am a head of department. What subject are you looking for? Or is this 11+ tutoring?

Did they really tell you the entire history of the tutor, and in such a negative way?

I would be far more interested in how long have they worked as a tutor and what progress their students make. As teaching online 1-1 is very different from teaching a class of 30 pupils.

Where there are other tutors who have worked in schools as qualified school teachers for 10-15 years+ charging less...

Then go for them if that’s what you want?

Where there are other tutors who have worked in schools as qualified school teachers for 10-15 years+ charging less...

Use them then. No ones forcing you to use the more expensive tutor...

I also charge that rate, as a senior examiner and head of department with 10+ years' experience...

As a teacher who also tutors, I say you are right to question this. I have had kids with terrible tutors who contradict what their teachers tell them and cause all sorts of hassle. One of my colleagues once had to justify herself to SLT because of a very wrong interpretation of a new specification by a tutor following a parental complaint.

I pay £35 for an English tutor but he is a head of department with experience marking for two of the exam boards. I charge £30 myself. If you are paying that amount, you need someone who understands the specifications and how to improve grades.

So get one of the others? The fact that teachers are underpaid, does not mean you can undervalue a tutor.
Bear in mind that £35 has to cover pension, NI etc. - the tutor is self employed. If he/she is any good there will be prep involved to tailor things to the pupil.
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I would want someone with some relevant experience, either teaching or utilising the subject being tutored. I would also expect in person tutoring rather than Zoom, but the cost does not surprise me.

Also remember that an experienced teacher doesn't automatically make a good tutor and vice versa. Teachers have experience of teaching a class of ~30, but tailoring lesson plans for one to one and individual learning styles is an entirely different skill.

DH is just about to start tutoring when he retires from teaching. He has taught A level and GCSE for the last 25 years in a private school. Most of his pupils have achieved A's as a B in considered a disaster in the private sector.
He loved teaching online through lockdown and didn't miss getting up at 5.30am to drive into the city.
He was thinking of charging about £35 per hour (one to one) and he frequently gets offerred much more.
I can't see the unqualified/inexperienced tutor getting many takers.

The tutor can charge whatever they like, and it's up to clients to decide whether they want to pay that much. The tutor will presumably reduce rates if they can't generate sufficient business at that level.

If you don't want to pay that much for an inexperienced tutor, then go to someone else instead...it may be that others are willing to pay for what this tutor is offering, and that's their choice as well.

If £35 compares unfavourably to more experienced tutors then you are obviously going to go with them.

My SIL set herself up as a tutor after years of SAHM (you mention this person has no recent employment so wondering if this might be a similar situation) based on training course plus existing degree on the subject. But she started out with children of friends at mates rates to build some experience/reputation.

As others have said, don't use that one then. Free market economy innit?
Prices also depend where you are getting the tutor from. Is this an agency which sets the hourly rate? Does the agency take 15-20% from each tutor?
I've been teaching since 1994, am an examiner, and freelance as a materials writer. I do teacher training. My tutoring rate is £25. But I don't do it with an agency of any kind.

Who has forced you to take on this tutor? Use the other less charging ones then ???

If it was a STEM subject I'd go for a recently graduated Tutor if that person had a Masters /PhD over teaching experience.

Someone is entitled to charge what they want. You can pay what you want.

If it seems to be working, then keep the tutor.
If it's not, then finish it.
Or choose someone else.

Capitalism

Then don’t? 🤷🏻‍♀️
What an odd post.

Maybe this person doesn’t teach in school because they love tutoring and are really good at it? Teaching 1:1 is very different than the crowd control of a classroom. You can be rubbish at behaviour management but actually very good at teaching your subject.

Or you can be shit and riding the wave of high demand.

Pick someone else then. If they're good and well recommended they'll have a waiting list and won't need the sort of client who moans about their hourly rate.

I agree with the others, that's too much. I'm a 20 year experienced Science teacher in Lancashire and that's what I charge.

Generally IME £30-40 is the going rate for a good Science or Maths teacher, especially for A-level. I'd expect someone with no experience to be £20-25.

One thing worth considering is that the £35 might not be going to the tutor. An agency that I worked for charged clients £35 and hour, but tutors received £20 of that (we were all very experienced). This made me feel like I had to go over and beyond my £20 lesson (often going over the hour and providing support between lessons).

PAFMO In the nicest possible way, with all your experience, I think you are underselling yourself.

We paid £75/ hour for specialist STEM tutoring (A level) for a brief period. The tutor was a post doc student.

It was incredibly expensive, we had to cut back on a lot to afford it, but did the job and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

I think you pay for what you get but if you are not happy with the tutor you have then look elsewhere. My DC who was tutored is now doing so himself (yr 13 now) and charging £20/ hour. Have you thought about a fellow student?