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To think 2 hours queuing times is wrong at Merlin?

290 replies

ToBeOrNotToB · 30/10/2022 00:58

We went to Chessington Howl’oween. The queues for most of the big ticket rides were 2 hours long all day. Some were 90mins. We went on 3 big rides in total. Shouldn’t theme parks limit number of visitors to guarantee better value for money? (It costs over £100 for a family of four to visit).

OP posts:
thelobsterquadrille · 30/10/2022 14:08

I understand your position, you’re keen to get your say across but I have to disagree with what you say. I expect value. And no, it’s not at all like complaining about Cornwall at peak times. I’m paying for an experience that was limited at best

Yeah, but that was mostly your own fault really, lol. Big events at theme parks are ALWAYS going to be poor value for money - common sense would have told you that. But you chose to go anyway - that's not Merlin's problem.

autienotnaughty · 30/10/2022 14:11

Snackkers · 30/10/2022 10:03

My children want to go to legoland, it was require 2 overnight stays for us because of the distance. We haven’t gone this year because the fear of a full day queueing, managing a couple of rides and 3 disappointed children.

I went a few years ago in June (term time) did 3 days - 2 in legoland and 1 in Windsor we had a fantastic time. Last year in august was horrendous. We did barely anything. It's when you go really.

autienotnaughty · 30/10/2022 14:17

Fluffluff · 30/10/2022 09:25

Another issue and I expect flaming for this is the no queuing for disabilities.

Seriously all the issues around theme parks and you are going with them being accessible for disabled people? Wow what a hateful person you are.

And to be clear even with passes , disabled people still typically have to queue and are often limited in the number of rides they can access per day. They don't come out of the day any better off than any other person accessing a theme park.

Snackkers · 30/10/2022 14:35

Yes hopefully we will try and go when it’s term time. Otherwise I don’t think it would be worth it.

happyfishcoco · 30/10/2022 16:52

SpinningFloppa · 30/10/2022 01:00

My son went as part of a school trip so during term time and still they only managed to get on 3 rides!

during term time on weekdays, the waiting time for the rides is only 10-30 mins.
school trip is not the same story.

housemaus · 30/10/2022 17:22

Ylvamoon · 30/10/2022 07:26

Happened to us at Chessington many years ago.
I won't set foot into a UK theme park again...

Not just UK theme parks - I went to PortAventura a few years ago and queued 3 hours for one of the rides. It was rubbish. Boiling hot too!

happyfishcoco · 30/10/2022 17:57

I really hate the car park system.
very stupid, they should have improved it.
we went to Legoland a few times this year.
took us 30-60 mins to get out of the car park.
they closed at 7 pm, and we are about to leave at 5 pm, but still have to wait 45mins!!!

happyfishcoco · 30/10/2022 18:23

Sirzy · 30/10/2022 07:27

But as a consumer you knew you where going to an event at a peak time so surely you know it would be busy and have queues? It shouldn’t really come as a shock if you make that decision.

you knew it would be busy. You knew it would be expensive. You decided to go. So from a consumer rights pov I don’t think you have much of an argument.

people know it will be very busy and have queues.
but not expecting 2-hour queues.
IMO, 1 hour is already a long waiting.

op is talking about the park being overcrowded.

mummabubs · 30/10/2022 19:40

For the record OP I don't think you're being silly or unreasonable!

As a child I went to Paulton's Park a fair bit as we were local to there, did Legoland twice and Thorpe Park a couple of times too. So have some awareness of theme parks etc.

Our 5 year old son is absolutely obsessed with Lego, so he's been begging to go to Legoland ever since he found out that it exists. I booked tickets for us to to tomorrow as it's half term where we are but not in England and I figured this would mean it was quiet. Little did I know that there are lots of schools on inset tomorrow so I'm actually feeling quite stressed and anxious about it given the utter horror stories I've read about this week - people queuing 2 hours for every ride, then queueing for 1.5-2 hours to get out of the car park at the end of the day (I've subsequently begrudgingly paid £13 for "priority" parking as I'm really afraid of being stuck there with two young children and a 2.5 hour journey home ahead of us. We can't afford a hotel to stay down there, nor can we afford any form of their many fast passes (which I have real issues with like OP). I keep telling myself my son will really just be happy to look at Lego and go on the Ninjago ride... But I swear it's not looking like the fun family days out that I remember as a child! Wish us luck 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

ToBeOrNotToB · 30/10/2022 19:42

@mummabubs Thanks for your kind words and good luck tomorrow. The model village is lovely at Legoland if it all gets too much.

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mummabubs · 30/10/2022 19:50

Thank you @ToBeOrNotToB 😊 x

sneezums · 30/10/2022 19:51

We went to Thorpe park a few years ago - it was a few days before main summer holidays and it was heaving. We spent an hour queuing for even a medium ride, so we decided to shell out on fast passes, but the queue for them was about 30 minutes. So I went to customer services and asked for my money back - they then gave me fast passes to 6 rides to get rid of me and not refund!

Vgbeat · 30/10/2022 23:46

We went to Disney this week and most rides were 2 to 3 hours. We ended up buying 3 fast tracks which cost 500 euros for 1 ride each on 12 rides just to get on,

XelaM · 30/10/2022 23:48

Just came back from Thorpe Park Fright Night. I must say it was not as bad as I had expected and we managed to get on about 10 rides plus some of the mazes and we didn't even arrive that early. We came around 12pm and stayed until closing. Fast passes on the big popular rides (except Saw) were definitely necessary though.

We used fast passes for Nemesis, Walking Dead and Swarm, but for Saw it was much quicker to join the single rider queue than the fast pass queue, so it was a waste of money buying a fast pass for Saw. Everything else we did without any fast passes and the queues moved fairly quickly (35mins maximum wait).

XelaM · 30/10/2022 23:53

mummabubs · 30/10/2022 19:40

For the record OP I don't think you're being silly or unreasonable!

As a child I went to Paulton's Park a fair bit as we were local to there, did Legoland twice and Thorpe Park a couple of times too. So have some awareness of theme parks etc.

Our 5 year old son is absolutely obsessed with Lego, so he's been begging to go to Legoland ever since he found out that it exists. I booked tickets for us to to tomorrow as it's half term where we are but not in England and I figured this would mean it was quiet. Little did I know that there are lots of schools on inset tomorrow so I'm actually feeling quite stressed and anxious about it given the utter horror stories I've read about this week - people queuing 2 hours for every ride, then queueing for 1.5-2 hours to get out of the car park at the end of the day (I've subsequently begrudgingly paid £13 for "priority" parking as I'm really afraid of being stuck there with two young children and a 2.5 hour journey home ahead of us. We can't afford a hotel to stay down there, nor can we afford any form of their many fast passes (which I have real issues with like OP). I keep telling myself my son will really just be happy to look at Lego and go on the Ninjago ride... But I swear it's not looking like the fun family days out that I remember as a child! Wish us luck 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Legoland is lovely and not that bad for queuing. But if you can get the cheapest form of the fast pass (the one that tells you when to go to the ride to avoid the queue, you will have an amazing time. I'm really sad my daughter is too old for Legoland now. She used to LOVE it!

ObjectionSustained · 30/10/2022 23:57

I'm 'lucky' with theme parks as I'm disabled and get to skip the queues, and honestly the only way to do it is to buy the queue jump passes.

We went to Blackpool at the end of august and, without my disabled pass, we were looking at 60-90 minute queues per ride. With the pass I waited maybe 10 minutes at most. Those who buy the fast passes follow the same queue as the disabled, so they wait about the same.

It's not right, but the theme parks won't limit numbers because they want as much money as possible.

XelaM · 31/10/2022 00:00

nothingcomestonothing · 30/10/2022 12:07

OP isn't complaining about having to queue though - just asking if 2+ hours is unreasonable. We were there on Wednesday, the queues were bad and the queue times on the app not at all accurate.

We stayed at the hotel, so had early access - but only the kiddy rides are open then, so all mine did was join a queue for Vampire. With no guarantee it would open at 10, or at all. Every big ride broke down, I think more than once each, while we were there. If you have queued for an hour to a ride which then breaks down, unlucky, you just get sent away.

The queues for fast pass/disabled access were still 45 minutes plus. My DD has a ride access pass, how it works is you book a ride, queue in the 'fast pass' queue, then the system locks you out for the duration of the standard queue, before you can book another ride. So e.g. you book Dragons Fury, queue in the fast pass queue for 45 minutes, go on, then wait the 2 hours the normal queue would have been before you can book something else. So no, a fast pass or disabled pass doesn't solve the problem, nor are those with them causing the problem for everyone else.

So posters can say get there early/buy a fast pass/check the queues on the app - we did all of those, and still queued A LOT. We can't go on a quieter day, we have to go in school holidays. And I personally think that the amount of queueing, even with all my efforts to minimise it, added to rides breaking down, slow queues for food, toilets, even to get the QR code to activate the access pass in the first place, isn't okay. 'Don't go when its busy then' isn't possible for everyone, and some customer service or better organisation would at least help me.feel less ripped off.

Chessington is the worst for queuing and customer service in my opinion. We also stayed in the hotel a few years ago and the fast pass tickets did absolutely nothing to minimise queuing and most staff were so rude! It's such a shame, as I love Chessington (both zoo and theme park rides) but I really don't want to return.

ObjectionSustained · 31/10/2022 00:04

@nothingcomestonothing gosh, is that how the disabled passes work in Chessington?!

When I was in Blackpool I waited no more than 10 minutes with my disabled pass, they wrote a time (20 minutes later) on the pass and that was when we could go to our next ride.
Sometimes they didn't even write the time so we could go from one ride to another.

No booking rides, no waiting for 45 minutes.. good job because waiting that long would have had me going home after one ride.

Snugglemonkey · 31/10/2022 00:07

Honestly, I am struggling to think of anything I would be willing to queue for 2 hours for. I just don't think there is anything.

mummabubs · 31/10/2022 05:52

@XelaM Thanks for your reply 😊 I vaguely remember loving it as a child too, so fingers crossed it's not so busy that it ruins it. Unfortunately we can't afford even the cheapest priority ride access (this would cost us an additional £140), never mind the more expensive ones. 🤦🏻‍♀️

mummabubs · 31/10/2022 05:54

Snugglemonkey · 31/10/2022 00:07

Honestly, I am struggling to think of anything I would be willing to queue for 2 hours for. I just don't think there is anything.

Same. Given how short they are it really doesn't feel worth it. Unfortunately when you've got young children it's hard to explain the queue vs ride duration dilemma 🤣

ToBeOrNotToB · 31/10/2022 07:15

I won’t ever buy fast passes because I disagree with them in principle. I can queue up but I feel 60/75min queues should be the limit. 2 hours means for a 6 hour day, you get in 3 rides plus you need to eat. It’s not good value and I guess that’s why I started this conversation. Should Merlin have more of a care about the guest experience? I can’t think of many other businesses that could get away with it.

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toastofthetown · 31/10/2022 07:45

They “get away with it” because most people know that Halloween is one of the busiest time of year for the theme parks and have their expectations set accordingly (and buy fast passes if riding all the big rides is important to them). So most people’s experience is either good or in line with what they expected, so they keep returning. I’m not sure about Chessington, but Alton Towers we’re selling out of tickets this year, so why change what’s working for them? I’d love to go to Alton Towers Scarefest one year, but I’d be going for the atmosphere and to enjoy the event, not to ride all the rollercoasters, because that’s just not going to happen at peak time.

If I want to get ‘value for money’ then I’d do what I did earlier this year and visit on a midweek in spring outside the school holidays. I’d ridden all the major rides at least once, and most of the minor ones I wanted to within 2.5 hours and at one point the queues for everything were 0 minutes. I left before park close because I was done. I wouldn’t expect a similar experience at a peak time.

nothingcomestonothing · 31/10/2022 07:46

ObjectionSustained that's how the disabled passes work at all Merlin parks. At Legoland (my DC are too old really but still do like it) the time you're 'locked out' is much shorter, I've never been to Chessington before so expected it to be 30-40 minutes max, not 1 1/2-2 hours per ride. It's done on an app on your phone and you don't see the time you will be 'locked out' until after you've been on the ride, so no staff to fudge the time or anyone to negotiate with. It makes it hard to plan.

nothingcomestonothing · 31/10/2022 08:10

buy fast passes if riding all the big rides is important to them. As I said yesterday, we had a pass, and still had very long waits.

I wouldn’t expect a similar experience at a peak time. OP said she didn't expect that experience at peak time, but she also didn't expect 2 hour queues for every ride all day. She didn't ask if SWBU to expect no queues in peak time, she asked whether the duration of queues was reasonable.