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How can people afford to remortgage

216 replies

Tead · 29/10/2022 09:09

I have a £200k mortgage. When aI remortgage I will end up paying around £500 a month more. I can just about manage I think although there will be nothing left at the end of the month and we might need to go into our savings.
how would people who are just about coping deal with an increase in monthly payments

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lannistunut · 31/10/2022 05:24

C4tastrophe · 30/10/2022 22:22

You think Labour would have had a full costed budget? Liz was a disaster but the train was already coming down the tracks.
The markets won’t tolerate any more borrowing on the never never.
If Rishi doesn’t come up with solid policies to boost gdp, and not by just increasing immigration, he’ll go the same way as Liz.
It wouldn’t surprise me if he increased NI again, which would be great as everyone wants more spent on the NHS.

Yes, Labour would have had a costed budget for any fiscal event. What Truss did - and the Tories praised it initially - was completely out of the ordinary.

donttellmehesalive · 31/10/2022 06:29

I thought this Guardian article, reporting on the announcement from NatWest here was interesting. Not just the forecast for a 7% drop followed by five years of stagnation, but also that they can see the beginning of changed behaviours in their customers - spending less, consolidating debt, swapping to cheaper supermarkets and so on. Interesting to see trends and patterns starting to establish, even though anecdotally people are saying that they don't know anyone affected.

Halloweenshock · 31/10/2022 06:39

I’ve left my dream job in the public sector for one that pays the bills in the private sector. I am not the only one of my colleagues to do so. Worse public services are on their way.

Razzle5 · 31/10/2022 07:14

Halloweenshock · 31/10/2022 06:39

I’ve left my dream job in the public sector for one that pays the bills in the private sector. I am not the only one of my colleagues to do so. Worse public services are on their way.

Why? Pay?

whynotwhatknot · 31/10/2022 09:27

no idea will have to remortgage in 2 years and i pray the rates arent too high

Grrrrdarling · 31/10/2022 11:03

Alibro79 · 29/10/2022 09:18

Many will simply not manage. We are anticipating large increases in mortgages arrears, large increases in people seeking forbearance measures. We are moving staff from new business teams to arrears teams in preparation.

If my deal was up now, I would seek a new fixed deal but would hang around on a variable rate for a while, saving up as much as I can.

Brilliant advice. The market is going insane & if anyone can extend the length of their mortgage right now to bring costs down or go interest only for a few years I’d advise them to give it a go. Hopefully things will get better but it won’t be anytime soon & I feel for those who are going to lose their security, retirement pot etc.

user1468761869 · 31/10/2022 14:02

We have decided to liquidate our savings into our mortgage. Hence buffering the hike in interest rate with a lesser mortgage.

DeadHouseBounce · 31/10/2022 14:42

user1468761869 · 31/10/2022 14:02

We have decided to liquidate our savings into our mortgage. Hence buffering the hike in interest rate with a lesser mortgage.

Two lines that encapsulate the damage that property bubbles do. The property market crashing will be the best thing to happen to the UK in decades, bring it on!

YetAnotherNameChange52 · 31/10/2022 22:04

Halloweenshock · 31/10/2022 06:39

I’ve left my dream job in the public sector for one that pays the bills in the private sector. I am not the only one of my colleagues to do so. Worse public services are on their way.

I've just left my NHS job to go to the private sector too, as have a lot of my colleagues, so I agree with you @Halloweenshock

YetAnotherNameChange52 · 31/10/2022 22:09

Razzle5 · 31/10/2022 07:14

Why? Pay?

For me it was the hours @Razzle5 - working all hours day and night at full pelt was starting to affect my health, and was certainly affecting my time with my family. The NHS sadly isn't great at taking care of it's staff.

IneedanewTV · 31/10/2022 22:16

Personally I would stretch the term. I’ve had a mortgage for Over 30 years now and have another 7 years to go. If rates drop again you can reduce the term or over pay. It’s still the cheapest way to borrow money. If you rented you would pay rent for the rest of your working life so why is a mortgage seen differently.

BeenNeverSeen · 01/11/2022 06:50

We are in the process of remortgaging & have an offer at 5%. How do you decide whether to fix for 2 years or 5 years…? Genuinely don’t know what to do! Our mortgage advisor said 2 years as he thinks interest rates will stabilise at between 4 to 5% but obviously just his opinion!

Testina · 01/11/2022 07:59

If your adviser thinks you’d be fixing at a maximum of 1% “too high” I’m surprised they’re not recommending 5 years. I’m also surprised they’re telling you that - in my experience MAs are great at finding the right product for you - but don’t have interest rate crystal balls. Did you ask why he thinks they’ll stabilise at 4-5%? I wonder if his answer would be, “because”.

I decided to fix for 5 last December. Before the Ukraine war, but already increasing economic uncertainty with Covid and Brexit effects.

I decided by looking at how much I would lose out on if rates went down, how much just not having to worry about rises was worth to me, and what my options were at the end of the fix if I didn’t fix long enough.

So say I fixed at 5% - how much would I be “wasting” if it dropped to 4%? Say that’s £1000. Is £1000K worth it to buy peace of mind?

How much can I afford for it to go up? I could afford to pay 10%. Therefore, if I want I can take the risk that rates go down and I win by not fixing - cos I can afford the opposite. If you have no wriggle room to afford placing the wrong bet - don’t place it. If rates do go down, accept that you made the right decision at the time.

Then the end of the fix. What would I do if rates rose sharply? After a 2 year fix, I’d struggle. I’d simply have to find the money from somewhere. But after a 5 year fix, I’d have paid off an extra 3 years so if I really had to, I could add that time back into my remortgage to lower my payments. I also know I can afford to overpay during the 5 years if things look hairy. At the moment I’m prioritising additional pension but if we start h the next tax year on 8% mortgages, I’ll switch and over pay whilst still on my fix.

On that logic, why not a 10 year fix?
I only have 13 years to go. If retrospectively a 10 year fix would have been better, I’ve only got 8 years to go. So the actual £ impact is lower than someone with a 25 year mortgage. I also am very likely to have received a small inheritance in 10 years, but not 5. So I may have another option. I have some savings if I have to use them.

So all in all…

I actually probably made the wrong decision in December. I fixed for 5 years at 2%. If I’d done it 6 months later I’d have possibly fixed for 10.

But, I don’t have regrets because I know my decision making was sound, and I know that I have a plan for the unfixed years 5-10.

You need to get close to all your options, and your attitude to risk.

Testina · 01/11/2022 08:00

Sorry, that was to @BeenNeverSeen 😀

BeenNeverSeen · 01/11/2022 08:26

Testina · 01/11/2022 08:00

Sorry, that was to @BeenNeverSeen 😀

Thank you, really helpful advice & much appreciated. I guess he has a crystal ball…

SleepyAnkylosaurus · 01/11/2022 14:51

It's a really great time to be a housing association tenant?

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