to think if you did multiple email breaches in a high profile role involving national security, you should not be in that role

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As you can't be trusted not to 'accidentally' email people important documents accidentally who don't need to see them.

Email security is important. We have rules in our work place. Ensuring you send to the right people. Use BCC. Don't use your personal email.

If you make errors, there are consequences.

Apart from using her personal email to send documents to people, it turns out that there have been other concerns about our Home Secretary.

[[https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/26/suella-braverman-return-after-security-breach-defended-by-james-cleverly[[

Speaking to Piers Morgan Uncensored on Wednesday night, Berry said there had been “multiple breaches of the ministerial code” after Braverman had sent the document to her confidante and fellow MP Sir John Hayes.
“It was sent from a private email address to another member of parliament,” he told TalkTV’s Kate McCann. “She then sought to copy in that individual’s wife and accidentally sent it to a staffer in parliament. To me, that seems a really serious breach, especially when it was documents relating to cyber security, as I believe. That seems a really serious breach.
“The cabinet secretary had his say at the time, I doubt he changed his mind in the last six days but that is a matter for the new prime minister.”

Apparently she has asked for more training on email security.

But the joy of our current government is that no one cares and they can do what the like - Johnson getting an 80 seat majority rewrote the rules of politics, very much for the worse 🤬.

Not the first time either. Media reporting today that MI5 raised concerns about her leaking stuff back in April. Sunak refused to answer about ongoing security concerns in PMQs yesterday. Same old tory shite

Rishi 's first (probably of many) one-fingered salute 🖕

Really? I'd kind of assumed that she did it on purpose so she had a 'reason' to leave a sinking ship..

Tell that to Hilary Clinton ( hint: she’s in your side)

Fuck me, that's bad. I, like @mamabear715 thought she'd done it to destabilise Truss, but it looks like she's too careless to be around security sensitive information.

Really? I'd kind of assumed that she did it on purpose so she had a 'reason' to leave a sinking ship..

That was my assumption at first too but the inference seems to be that when they found one leak (because she accidentally sent it to the wrong person) it was because she'd been using her private email to leak documents for a while.

She then resigned, ending the cabinet office investigation before it could report, (knowing she was about to be sacked) and then used her 'resignation' to attack Liz, making it look like she jumped.

Agree. I'm a much lower ranking Civil Servant & I suspect I would have been fired for these sorts of breaches. Apparently the Civil Service rules of conduct don't apply to her!!

I'd thought that initially, but unfortunately it seems to be worse than that..
Repeated breaches to a 3rd party, then to his wife (only it wasn't it was a staffer)
MI5 raising concerns earlier in the year. Not good.
Rishi needs to get rid of her, pronto.

I'm totally pissed off with Rishi now, I thought he was going to be a breath of fresh air, I was wrong.

Liz seemed fairly swift at sacking those who misbehaved (the only good thing to say about her). I think if she'd known about the leaks earlier Braverman wouldn't have been appointed, so I assume the report from the person who received the incorrect email was the catalyst for it all to come out.

That said, perhaps Johnson was aware of prior leaks and didn't care. I can't imagine we will know the details unless there is an enquiry and that seems unlikely.

I wonder if there is more to come out?

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen in what side?

There is a weird naivety in anyone thinking that she accidentally leaked.

the man she leaked to is essentially her “backer”, or “mentor”.

people who leak tend to want the contents of a draft document to be aired publicly, so that the resultant outrage leads to the outcome they want (it’s shelved, it’s amended heavily due to the noisy feedback).

This feels more like a tactic then a mistake , a tactic that stems from the wilful disregard of rules and convention started under Boris and Cummings . They had to learn it from somewhere, the culture has been wrong for about six years now

My first thought was, how is anyone able to transfer sensitive documents from their work e-mail environment to their personal e-mail? i have never worked anywhere where this was possible. In fact, I can no longer send myself e-mails from work, let alone with attachments.
Are the e-mails and documents not classified buy the IT system? At work, for example, I cannot attach a document that is classified as "confidential" to an e-mail that is classified as "internal".

In fact, I can no longer send myself e-mails from work, let alone with attachments

Now that's interesting. Can you send an email to any account like Yahoo or GMail - or is it just your own personal account?

I can send incredibly confidential information to myself if I wanted to - I obviously don’t but I could. I’m also intrigued as to how they could stop you doing that without preventing you from sending info to people I need to send it to!

Lots of rules are possible with emails - I guess it's a case of how awkward you want to be as an IT person.

Thou shalt not email any external person unless they are on the approved list.
Thou shalt not email any attachments at all.
Thou shalt not email thy own personal email address.

Emailing externally is useful - I guess there would need to be some very good email rules in place to reduce the chance of data leaks.

When I worked with confidential material we weren't allowed to send anything by email that couldn't be in the public domain unless it was internally using the internal email system. Because you have no control over where emails go in between being sent and being received. They don't appear by magic, they travel through various systems and servers, god knows where, on their way. Email is not secure.