Should we stop clocks going back?

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This practice is outdated, no longer needed (farmers have lights on their farming equipment etc). The country would reduce energy costs as we would not need to turn on the lights so soon in the evening.

AIBU to want to the UK to choose a time and stick with it?

i thought when the clocks went “back” that meant we were on the correct time (GMT) isn’t it British Summer Time (BST) that is the “wrong” time?

Wouldn’t it be easier to change the school day? So have 10-4.30 day instead? I guess might be tricky with younger kids that need dropping off before work. But secondary school it might help.

Well no, because then you have kids coming home in the pitch dark in the afternoon rush hour. And childcare would be a nightmare.

I live in Scotland 😂😂

It's more dangerous for children to come home in the dark than go to school in the dark ( more accidents as people get more tired )

This practice is outdated, no longer needed (farmers have lights on their farming equipment etc). The country would reduce energy costs as we would not need to turn on the lights so soon in the evening.

Which practice?

The clock time in winter is the "correct" time, i.e. noon when the sun is at its zenith. It's the time in summer that's artificial, when the clocks are set one hour ahead of the actual time. What we will be doing this weekend is resetting the clocks to the correct time.

No I like them going back

Even as someone in Scotland I agree. But I might be a total weirdo, and for some reason I enjoy a dark morning much more than a dark evening. If I’m up and have started my day already when it’s still dark I think I feel more accomplished. But in mid winter I find it very depressing when light starts to go at 2.30/3pm.

Mr too. It's cosy and really signals the start to Autumn/Winter. I like Halloween, Bonfire Night and Christmas too which. People have coped with the morning and evenings being darker for 70 odd years so I think we can cope. It's only really dark morning and evening for about 3 months.

It's not just about north and south, there are also significant differences between east and west.

There was another thread on this the other day and my feeling is put the clocks back but put them forward again at the beginning of March, rather than at the end. Then we'd have a month of lighter evenings.

I have to say I find the comments about it being cosy a bit odd. It has a major impact on what you can and can't do, especially as a woman. I'd much rather walk home from work or a railway station in the daylight for as long as possible.

(and the rapists and murderers aren't usually out at 8am, but they may well be hanging around at 5pm)

Not a terrible practical solution, and along those lines could we actually hold off on changing them until the end of November too?

Sorry, midgetastic but you are wrong. When this experiment was last tried in the UK, morning accidents rose 3% but evening accidents dropped by 8%, so overall there were fewer deaths and injuries, not more.

Secondly, the environmental argument is all in favour of not changing the clock. Retired and unemployed people do not need to get up early, and thus are not putting on lights in the (darker) morning, as they are still in bed. Whereas virtually everyone is up and about at 4/5/6 pm, and if the clock change makes it dark early, then ALL of us will put on extra lighting. That has implications for increased electricity use.
Finally, having an extra hour of daylight after work lets people enjoy walks, jogging, sports, hobbies and gardening, improving fitness and mood. Most people don’t have time to do this in the morning while scrambling to work and school, and gardens are often too frosty for digging then as well.

Sorry that should read if the clock change makes it dark later, obviously!

When was this experiment?

Could you provide details ?

It's just when this was last discussed at a political level the argument went that although overall accidents would go down morning accidents would rise which would be unacceptable as people would focus just on mornings

I want my extra hour in bed so happy for them to go back but if be happy to ot put them forwards again and just stay on GMTafter that

*Happy to not put them forwards

Do rapists and murderers generally prefer a lie in?

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As example

I would much rather have light in the morning

Put them back to GMT in the autumn and then keep them there. There is absolutely no need for “British summer time”.

errmm.... I dont know where in the UK you are, but here (South West) it's dark by 3:30 by the beginning of December. My ds bus gets in at 4:15 and he will walk the last bit in the dark.

I think that really depends on where you live. I don’t much fancy it being light at 3am rather than 4 mid summer tbh.

www.rospa.com/lets-talk-about/2019/october/let%E2%80%99s-go-back-to-1968