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To think it sets a really bad example for the country when the PMs family have tax dodged millions

458 replies

Chloefairydust · 25/10/2022 22:05

Just that really…

Im really surprised Sunak actually made it to be prime minister considering the recent stories that have been in the news regarding his family avoiding millions of ££ in tax . I actually thought Boris would have been more likely to have been PM. (Not that he’s any better🤔)

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minou123 · 27/10/2022 00:40

EsmaCannonball · 27/10/2022 00:36

Yes, she was claiming to be only staying in the UK temporarily and planning on returning to India in the near future. Meanwhile, her husband was Chancellor of the Exchequer, with his sights set on becoming PM. I wonder if he knew she was planning to live separate lives? 😉Oh, and then they were both simultaneously planning to take up permanent residence in California. It gets very confusing. (One suspects deliberately so.) Anyway, the money wasn't in any of these places.

That's not what happened.

FurAndFeathers · 27/10/2022 03:24

EsmaCannonball · 27/10/2022 00:36

Yes, she was claiming to be only staying in the UK temporarily and planning on returning to India in the near future. Meanwhile, her husband was Chancellor of the Exchequer, with his sights set on becoming PM. I wonder if he knew she was planning to live separate lives? 😉Oh, and then they were both simultaneously planning to take up permanent residence in California. It gets very confusing. (One suspects deliberately so.) Anyway, the money wasn't in any of these places.

Honestly you sound like an Ill informed conspiracy theorist.
Rishi Sunak does not unilaterally decide the Uk legislation on tax planning.

i find it odd that you think the UK government has a claim to money earned by an Indian woman in her home country.

do pay tax you aren’t legally liable for? If not why are you criticising folks for something you aren’t willing to do yourself,

rwalker · 27/10/2022 05:38

FurAndFeathers · 26/10/2022 23:21

Why is the non-dom status relevant?
the fundamental issue is that folk are arguing she should pay tax she is not legally liable for but that other (white) politicians should not.

Because it’s the non dom
status people have a problem with

BMW6 · 27/10/2022 06:13

EsmaCannonball

So how many years have YOU worked at HMRC?

Do you have expertise of the Tax legislation regarding Residency and Domicile??

That's a hard No isn't it. I can tell.

You would do better just wailing "it's not fair that she's so rich"

BMW6 · 27/10/2022 06:17

rwalker · 27/10/2022 05:38

Because it’s the non dom
status people have a problem with

And the people who have a problem with it are those who haven't a clue about the Tax legislation.

Many on here from HMRC and accountancy have repeatedly posted that SHE DID NOTHING WRONG. People who KNOW the Tax laws. The arrogance in trying g to argue otherwise is puerile.

BMW6 · 27/10/2022 06:20

If anyone wants to get in a froth about rich people getting "unfair" Tax advantages, look up Lloyd's Underwriters.

You're welcome.

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 27/10/2022 06:23

No. He didn't break the law.

Is having. A slice of cake worse?

BabyGrooverBug · 27/10/2022 06:36

She lives in a country that doesn't allow dual nationality, so to pay UK personal tax she'd have to become British.

So this is really about "can a UK Prime minister be married to a foreign person". Staggering that in this day and age that would even be controversial.

EstellaRijnveld · 27/10/2022 06:44

Has anybody mentioned the other former British prime minister with a habit of getting other people to pay for him & accepting freebies from dodgy donors. Or as soon as Liz Truss got into office she gave herself a tax cut as she was earning over £150k at the time on the PM salary. They’re all dodgy, the tories always look after themselves first.

Blablablaaaaa · 27/10/2022 06:59

I’m so relived we now have Rishi rather then Liz or Boris. He’s much more steady and I like that his parents and siblings work in professions which centre people and their welfare.

Blablablaaaaa · 27/10/2022 07:01

I don’t give two hoots about the money Rishi has. He wasn’t born into unimaginable wealth and seems to have a moral compass of some degree, unlike truss or Boris

SellingFairytales · 27/10/2022 07:25

MsMoody · 27/10/2022 00:21

Quite frankly she had a nerve claiming that she was only a “temporary resident” when she lived at bloody 11 Downing St next door to the Prime Minister!

It's a legal status. My dh was a temporary resident here. That's what you are, rather than what you claim.

People can't just march into other countries and live in them. There is a process.

MariEllie · 27/10/2022 07:28

Blablablaaaaa · 27/10/2022 07:01

I don’t give two hoots about the money Rishi has. He wasn’t born into unimaginable wealth and seems to have a moral compass of some degree, unlike truss or Boris

Quite right. All the who ha about Rishi is just based on jealousy

Binkybix · 27/10/2022 07:30

And the people who have a problem with it are those who haven't a clue about the Tax legislation

That’s not fair - you can understand it perfectly well and not agree with it.

Working at HMRC doesn’t give you the arbiter of what people do and don’t fond acceptable (with - is it legal - being the absolute minimum).

FWIW I was not nuanced enough when I said I didn’t like it. If all the taxes were paid in full in India with no tricky accounting, then it seems fair enough. That has never been clarified (despite many claims to the contrary here!)

MsMoody · 27/10/2022 07:32

If you live in this country and are using its services (guessing his wife has private health insurance but uses our roads, benefits from our school system that educated her staff, police protection etc) you should contribute to tax here.

RitaConnors · 27/10/2022 07:42

MsMoody · 27/10/2022 07:32

If you live in this country and are using its services (guessing his wife has private health insurance but uses our roads, benefits from our school system that educated her staff, police protection etc) you should contribute to tax here.

She did! This has been covered on this very thread.

MsMoody · 27/10/2022 07:46

RitaConnors · 27/10/2022 07:42

She did! This has been covered on this very thread.

I am aware. Once she got caught and realised it didn’t do her husband’s political ambitions any favours, that is.

toomuchlaundry · 27/10/2022 07:53

She always had to pay tax on her Uk earnings and on any money remitted from abroad.

NannyOggsWhiskyStash · 27/10/2022 07:55

Of course it's unreasonable, the whole tax avoidance thing is unreasonable, I can't believe people are defending it. But then people are still defending the Tories, who have destroyed the country.

the80sweregreat · 27/10/2022 07:57

It was all covered on another thread but I can't do links , she was paying tax but under whatever rules there are for people with non Dom status in the UK. It is complicated
All legal.

toomuchlaundry · 27/10/2022 07:57

Because it wasn’t tax avoidance

RitaConnors · 27/10/2022 07:58

I am aware. Once she got caught and realised it didn’t do her husband’s political ambitions any favours, that is.

No. Not just once she got 'caught' 🙄.

For a start she was playing thirty thousand a year.

walkinginsunshinekat · 27/10/2022 08:09

BMW6 · 27/10/2022 06:17

And the people who have a problem with it are those who haven't a clue about the Tax legislation.

Many on here from HMRC and accountancy have repeatedly posted that SHE DID NOTHING WRONG. People who KNOW the Tax laws. The arrogance in trying g to argue otherwise is puerile.

Of course nothing illegal took place & i couldn't care less how much tax they pay or how rich they are but you have to be a bit thick not to realise this wont go down well with the electorate and that this is a gift horse for the opposition, both in and outside of the Tory party.

Integrity, Professionalism and Accountability are his 3 watch words.

MsMoody · 27/10/2022 08:18

RitaConnors · 27/10/2022 07:58

I am aware. Once she got caught and realised it didn’t do her husband’s political ambitions any favours, that is.

No. Not just once she got 'caught' 🙄.

For a start she was playing thirty thousand a year.

£30k is not very much when you’re the 222nd richest person in the UK!

Thisbastardcomputer · 27/10/2022 08:20

ApolloandDaphne · 25/10/2022 22:12

I quite honestly don't care. They haven't done anything illegal and they probably have a team of accounts, financial and legal specialists looking after their money. As long as he does a good job of running the country I am not bothered about his personal wealth.

This with bells on.

He's highly educated and not a career politician, I think he's the best person for the job