to be scared of two rottweilers unleashed by my local lake?

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I don't know the figures of death by other dogs. It doesn't make the papers so hard to know. People get killed everyday by various means but those means don't get discussed the same way or hit the papers in the same way.

No I dont think people should shut up about anything. If my child was killed by a car I'd want to do something about it and let people know about the dangers. But these stories aren't interesting enough to be in teh papers.

Of course there is a link to bites as they are still attacks by dogs. It would be silly to think that other breeds of dogs don't attack.

Just seen on news .. 76 year old man killed by HIS OWN Rotweiller that he was taking for a walk today

no YANBU

Where I am proud I state it because it has been said here people shouldnt have dogs that can kill. Please don't make things up about me. I have already stated I wouldnt have a rottweiler.

ALL dogs should be on the lead when in a park

pains in the fecking arse the lot of them

jumping up, scaring my children, crapping everywhere etc etc

ban the lot of them imo (and that includes those small rat like ones women keep in handbags)

I haven't seen children killed on the road front page papers or even inside papers. Local ones I guess would often have this but I dont get the local paper.
Again I never said cocker spaniels were savagely killing people. Again, please don't say I am saying things I am not.

Actually I have really found your comment about me being proud incredibly nasty. You know nothing about me or the way I bring up my dogs. Jeez.

Still I guess you just sadly missed the point of those comments...

the BBC say it was a Rotweiller TYPE dog - not specifically a rottie.

No-one is proud of the "killing ability" of a large dog Dittany but we are saying that these dogs, when having been treated properly and respected (ie - trained) are trustworthy to a certain extent.

An owner of a dog (ANY dog) that does not have a fully friendly dog under control off lead should not have it off the lead - but there is no way on the face of this earth that such a rule could ever be enforced.

TBH, if my vet had insisted that I muzzle my rottie (if I had one) WITHOUT having had a near-miss in the past would not be my vet... I hope they would trust my judgement enough to know that I would control it and to judge all dogs on that basis is crap really.

My mum's boss nearly lost the use of his arm from a dog bite recently - he got bitten by a Labrador. You know - family friendly, love kids blah blah Labrador... He has 3 GSDs of his own, works in a GSD group class (runs it) and there are about 8 of them there and helps countless other breeds/"dangerous" dogs and hasn't been in so much danger than he was from that bite.

I know it isn't death, I know large dogs carry higher risks but I think it is thoroughly unfair that it is only these dogs that are being constantly reported on. As I said before; you wouldn't see "GSD Nearly Dies from West Highland Terrier Attack" in a headline would you, but I bet you would see "GSD Attacks Again..."

There is a strong case for drowning them in the lake. The problem is that I am not sure quite how you would be able to do that without being savaged, but maybe some mumsnetters will have a bright idea.

I'm going to jump in here and then go back and read the thread - From what I have read previously, Hercules appears to be one of the most responsible dog owners on Mumsnet. I am sad to see what appears to be a knee-jerk reaction against her.

All this about Rottweiler characteristics is irrelevant imo.

Are many people scared of rottweilers?
Ans: Yes
Are most rottweiler owners aware that others are scared?
Ans: Yes
Are rottweiler owners who allow their dogs to approach other people, therefore, doing so despite knowing said people will be scared?
Ans: Yes
Are these owners, therefore, selfish and antisocial at best?
Ans: Yes

Rotweillers are a lethal breed... IF UNTRAINED.

There is a million miles between those that own dogs irresponsibly and those that own dogs wholly responsibly.

There is no way by telling in the park which owner is which - we have established that, but the witch hunt for all "big and therefore scary" dogs to be out of anywhere remotely public is getting tiresome to be honest (I don't mean in conversations here, I mean in general)

Sigh. Actually I do have a cocker spaniel. I also have a great dane. I dont share here the other giant breed I have as it is a rare one.
My comments were in response to the comments made by others about people being irresponisble owning a dog that could kill someone. Well, lots of dogs can kill people if they so wished even a labrador. Seems daft to suggest we have a massive culling of any dog who could kill a person.

I have already pointed out of course I know the difference between biting and killing. Just to humour you as you didnt understand the connection I said it in response to your post wondering about statistics relating to other breeds. That's what happens in converstaions and discussions, they sometimes change tact.

Still just go on being judgemental and insulting eh?

They have absolutely no business being off a leash, they scare adults and children alike

Drown them.

What about children that go around terrorising neighbourhoods - may we drown them too?

With a bit of tougher parenting, I bet they wouldn't be quite so scary/violent; same goes for dogs.

Dogs and children are EXCEPTIONALLY similar in the way they need handling actually

How do you know other breeds havent killed people before? Genuinley interested to know how you can be so sure? Are you basing that purely on that you havent read it on the front page of a newspaper?

If you have read my previous posts you'll see that I too would have been scared and I would never have a rottweiler as contrary to what you think I would never want a dog who could cause this harm or need an experienced owner.

If you like, Lewis but I think technically that is murder. Possibly you could get away with manslaughter. Tell you what, you just get on with your ASBO-drownings, and I'll pretend I don't know anything about it.