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AIBU?

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Shared property

11 replies

Lovetotravel123 · 25/10/2022 17:00

I own a small property abroad with my brother. We inherited it from my mum, whose ashes are in the garden there. For that reason, we can’t sell.
I didn’t want my brother to have friends staying there because I have seen what a mess they leave. In the end, we drew up an informal contract whereby I agreed that he could allow anyone he wanted to stay there on condition that he pays for cleaners to clean up after. The same applies to me.
He recently stayed there with friends but didn’t arrange any cleaners. He says they cleaned themselves but that isn’t what was agreed, and I have seen his cleaning and it isn’t to a good standard.
My family members think I should suck it up and clean up after him myself when I next go there. AIBU to think he should do what is in the contract?
I guess some may say I am being petty but I don’t see why I should start my holiday cleaning after him when I carried out my side of the agreement.

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maxelly · 25/10/2022 17:03

YANBU but I don't know what you can realistically do about it. Presumably the 'contract' isn't enforceable (or not without ruining your relationship with your brother)? Can you afford to buy him out of the property so it's just yours (or vice versa), these sorts of shared arrangements are fraught with difficulty esp if you are emotionally attached to the house...

FlibbertyGiblets · 25/10/2022 17:34

All the stress and arguing over cleaning would taint the holidays. I would ask him to buy me out or agree to sell up. Remember her in other ways, not via stressing about mess.

SydneySage · 25/10/2022 17:38

I'd sell it. I know your mother's ashes are there, but even so

HappyHamsters · 25/10/2022 17:41

Whats an informal contract. Did he say why he didnt arrange a cleaner, would he pay towards the cost of you getting a cleaner in., it would be better to either sell, buy him out or get a legal contract made up on your responsibilities.

KangarooKenny · 25/10/2022 17:41

You can’t force him to do it.
Id sell it too.

Lovetotravel123 · 25/10/2022 17:55

Thanks for the replies. My dad has told us we can’t sell it and my brother won’t sell his share to me and won’t buy me out either.

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Poppyblush · 25/10/2022 18:17

If you don’t want it see a solicitor. Rather stupid tying yourself to a property like this - sorry but your father is being short sighted.

HappyHamsters · 25/10/2022 18:33

Do you want the property, it sounds like it will cause no end of problems within the family. Was it left to you and your brother in your mothers Will if so then your father cannot say it cannot be sold. Surely it will be sold eventually, what happens to it if any of you die, have children etc. If you want a good relationship with your brother and father then either stop worrying about the cleaning or see a solicitor .

SydneySage · 25/10/2022 19:34

Lovetotravel123 · 25/10/2022 17:55

Thanks for the replies. My dad has told us we can’t sell it and my brother won’t sell his share to me and won’t buy me out either.

"I own a small property abroad with my brother."

Tell your dad that if your brother doesn't sort his shit out, he can buy him out

Overandunderit · 25/10/2022 19:48

You can force a sale, surely?

MinervaVeta · 26/10/2022 15:55

I suspect your mum would be upset that a gift she hoped would bring her children pleasure is in fact doing the opposite. Nevertheless, does the property bring in any income? Who pays for all the costs of upkeep? Can you employ someone to clean up after your brother and take it out of his share of any joint income? I'm a bit confused as to why your brother won't buy you out and won't let you buy him out. I suppose if push comes to shove, you could always sell your share. Tell you brother that's what you are going to do then he'd have to share it with strangers. That might make him realise that the two of you don't share the same attitude to a property's upkeep.

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