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To feel upset at the thought of a stable next door

78 replies

AnnieHoooo · 23/10/2022 17:06

Neighbours daughter informed me she is building a stable on their land for her cob horse and pony. It's 1 metre from my garden fence and 4 metres from my kitchen window.

AIBU to want to move house?

I have invested 15 years into my garden. The horses have pulled my fence right down already and eaten their way through my escalonia, laurel and hawthorn.

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Hurrayforfridays · 23/10/2022 17:10

Won't they need planning permission to build a stable?

ChaosMoon · 23/10/2022 17:11

So she needs to make it secure and reimburse you for the damage. Once she's done that, there shouldn't be an issue.

Tomanycarrots · 23/10/2022 17:13

She’s responsible for fencing them in adequately

if they have horses already I’m assuming you live rurally? What’s the issue with a stable near your house,

JustOrderADoor · 23/10/2022 17:14

I'd love it!

AgathaX · 23/10/2022 17:16

Does she know about the damage to your fence and garden? Has she fixed it?

AnnieHoooo · 23/10/2022 17:18

I assume she will need planning permission.

Yes live rurally with small holdings around cottages.

I love the horses, no Issue with them but they do create horses urine smell which would drain into our garden and attract rats and flies.

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AnnieHoooo · 23/10/2022 17:19

Yes she knows about fence. She was shocked (years ago now) but did nothing. I'm going to fix that myself. Other neighbour bought an electric fence to prevent them damaging his fencing so I could do that too.

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QuebecBagnet · 23/10/2022 17:19

Don’t know if she would need planning permission, think it may depend on size.

Hexenjagd · 23/10/2022 17:21

If the horses have eaten their way through that lot, it might have cost a few quid In vets fees.

pretty sure laurel is toxic and LOADS of common garden plants are unsafe or even deadly for horses. She needs to secure against her own livestock. I think I’d be (only half jokingly)threatening to plant a laburnum and yew hedge

DoodlePug · 23/10/2022 17:23

I have horses, would love to have them at home. Not sure about a stable that close though, it's more if an issue of where the muck heap is than the stable.

The fencing obviously isn't adequate, that is your neighbours issue and she needs to reimburse you for damage.

I'd be horrified if I were her, for upsetting my neighbour and that some of those shrubs could be poisonous.

I wouldn't move though, cheaper to put up a big strong fence.

NaturalBlondeYeahRight · 23/10/2022 17:23

Have to say, my neighbour has stables/shetlands backing on to us and I've never had a single issue/smell. Maybe shetlands size has an effect or maybe she is very good at cleaning stables?

Hooverphobe · 23/10/2022 17:26

She’ll need planning permission for a stable as it’s considered a permanent structure. Which means you can quite happily tell the council “lovely. But not 4m from my kitchen window”.

I am a horsey person whose own nags have been IN my kitchen - but agree, the smell is not for everyone. As the queue in Tesco can attest to

HappyToSmile · 23/10/2022 17:27

I think if the stables are on skids, they can be called "mobile", so would not need planning permission.

AnnieHoooo · 23/10/2022 17:31

Thanks @DoodlePug - she did say the manure pile would be right down the other end away from me.

@Hexenjagd I would love a yew hedge!

Yes laurel is poisonous for horses.

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2bazookas · 23/10/2022 17:37

AnnieHoooo · 23/10/2022 17:06

Neighbours daughter informed me she is building a stable on their land for her cob horse and pony. It's 1 metre from my garden fence and 4 metres from my kitchen window.

AIBU to want to move house?

I have invested 15 years into my garden. The horses have pulled my fence right down already and eaten their way through my escalonia, laurel and hawthorn.

Tell her you're about to replace your boundary plants with a yew hedge.

thelobsterquadrille · 23/10/2022 17:39

Hooverphobe · 23/10/2022 17:26

She’ll need planning permission for a stable as it’s considered a permanent structure. Which means you can quite happily tell the council “lovely. But not 4m from my kitchen window”.

I am a horsey person whose own nags have been IN my kitchen - but agree, the smell is not for everyone. As the queue in Tesco can attest to

Depends how big the stable will be.

custardbear · 23/10/2022 17:45

I'm planning you should ask that they have an inside fence so that they cannot get to the boundary fence and damage it like they have already (send photographs)
State you're worried about faeces and urine, but I'm sure they'd need to put in proper drainage for the urine wash away and poo pile in another place like she's intimated already, but get it on record

custardbear · 23/10/2022 17:46

In ...not I'm

AnnieHoooo · 23/10/2022 17:55

Thank you @custardbear I will do put that in planning response.

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WetLettuce2 · 23/10/2022 17:57

Tell her you’re planting poisonous replacement trees and shrugs and suggest she electric fence the main fence out of reach.
The stable you may be stuck with if it’s on sliders (movable) - that’s living in the country for you.

Stickytreacle · 23/10/2022 18:04

The stable probably won't require planning, it depends on how much of the gardens footprint it takes up. A better objection route is the siting of the muck heap, effluent run off and fly/vermin issues.

Bigbadmama · 23/10/2022 18:11

How much land has she got ? More than an acre ?

Unforgettablefire · 23/10/2022 18:12

I would love this! Sorry.

elephantseal · 23/10/2022 18:16

How small is the horses' field that urine runs into your garden?? I can't imagine this.

OhMerde · 23/10/2022 18:22

thelobsterquadrille · 23/10/2022 17:39

Depends how big the stable will be.

No it doesn't. Size has nothing to do with it. Depends whether it's permanent or not. If it's mobile, then no pp needed. If its permanent and on a concrete base, pp needed.

Horse pee on the ground absolutely will not smell or attract flies. The muckheap could well smell though and flies will be attracted to the actual horses.

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