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Mature student with a side of guilt

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Thelostparent · 20/10/2022 11:07

I'm completely lost, mid 30s mum of 3, a wife and dog lover.

Now after a shite childhood, barely educated, first child at 18, twins born in my early 20s, married my childhood sweetheart, been together 18 years! I am/was a stay at home mum and people pleaser for 15 years.
(I stayed home so he could pursue his career, I wanted to stay home and raise my kids also)
the first 10 years I was quite happy with that . Husband has a good job and a good income, we struggle like everyone else financially, but we are better off than those on benefits/lower income.

Now, one of our children is severely mentally disabled, requiring a lot of care. Another child is autistic. It's been really hard, on top of this 6 years ago my parent was diagnosed with a form of demtia in their early 40s, and one year ago my other parent was diagnosed with terminal cancer.
There has been an immense amount of stress from extended family and so called friends and drama that has caused trauma to myself. Ptsd from having to resuscitate my own baby when a seizure almost killed him. The usual family stuff within my own little family to deal with also. Amongst other things. Myself and husband are happy and content we just want a quiet life, our own home and raise our kids.
Now, a year ago, after struggling more each year with our son and begging, kicking of, complaints to fight for basic services for him we finally got what we needed for him, we are in a better routine and place than we have ever been. I think my parents illness was a wake up call, like I said its been hard, I was given anti depressants years before this, I would drink wine every weekend, stopped looking after myself and was in a dark place. Suicide crossed my mind more than a few times. My kids are and will always be the most important to myself and husband, I am always open and honest with my kids about mental health. Anyway, I sat back and took stock of what the fu*k am I doing with my life basically, the kids are not babies anymore, I'm not happy, I was Lonley, bored and only just figuring out who I am, what I want from life and basically grew up.
My husband is my rock, he has supported every decision I have ever made, he works like a dog, goes above and beyond, is an amazing dad and husband.
We never got much help with the boys from anyone really, the odd night at grandparents here and there as a max maybe twice a year.

So a lot of soul searching later, an old passion kicked in, as I mentioned my education was nothing short of abusive as a child, staff putting you down every day. I wanted to get my own career and a better life for us all, with my husbands salary and mine combined in a few years our dream could be a reality. With not much in the way options, looking at the lifestyle of those I know and love, it made me sad.
I went to access college to get what I needed to get into university. I would go when the kids were at school 4 days a week for a year. Turns out I have a brain 😂
now im in university gaining my degree for my dream career, its hard, really hard but we are managing.
Now this is where I'm lost, after all the years of being just a mum, running around looking after everyone I possibly could, all the wasted energy when no one else noticed the smile I was hiding behind, the realisation that you have surrounded yourself with all the negativity possible, I have learnt to say no! I no longer drop everything, even precious time with my husband and kids to help out so called friends etc. I am happier, my home is run in a way that is best for us, we are all just very content 💖

So why do I feel so guilty???

😔
instead of sitting in my parents house, I am at home studying, instead of letting myself be dragged into other people drama, I ignore the calls and texts. All of this is a positive thing for me and my little family, no one has exactly made me feel like this. But no one congratulated me on starting my degree, or provided help and support to me or my kids, even in the darkest times, now all I get is comments that I'm never really around. But in a "nice" way.

The question that hurt the most was, why would you start a degree knowing how poorly your parents are? But I don't have the answer, in my
mind there will never be a right time for me, it's took me 5 years to figure this all out before we got the worst news about dad. I still visit everyone regularly, speak on the phone most days so it's not like I've cut everyone off. I am determined to get through the next 3 years, I know I will probably loose my dad whilst studying, I am trying to prepare for that as best I can, how can you be happy but sad and lost all at one time.

I know it's an insane read, but there must be someone out here who understands 🙏

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Dacadactyl · 20/10/2022 11:13

I won't pretend to understand the challenges of looking after a child with SN, or the challenges of looking after poorly parents. But I do understand the wanting something for yourself after all those years. I was a young mum too (but luckily just managed to graduate while heavily pregnant.)

I am sure you make decisions with the best interests of everyone involved at the heart of them. Good luck to you OP.

KettrickenSmiled · 20/10/2022 11:29

The question that hurt the most was, why would you start a degree knowing how poorly your parents are?

"Because I have a responsibility to support my entire family, not just my parents. I've spent over a decade in a 100% caretaking role & now it's time to step up my own career & earnings. For the good of my family - & also myself, if that's not too outrageous a concept for your to handle."

Alternatively - "thanks for your assumption that I should be nothing more than a default caretaker for the rest of every family member's life, & should never look to better my own situation."

Honestly OP whoever said that was being an utter twat.
Maybe they are a twat, or maybe they just had a twattish moment. Perhaps along the lines of That Friend who becomes unsupportive/low level bitchy when you lose weight/get a promotion etc ...
People around you may be resentful that you've discovered your brains & ability & may be moving up in the world. Some other might just feel thrown out that you have changed your priorities. You'll work out who's got your best interests at heart - sod anyone who doesn't champion you.
It's your turn - go for it, & well done!

Rubyuesaini · 20/10/2022 11:34

Firstly, congratulations on starting your degree, you are so young with so much of your life ahead of you.

Secondly, I would question the motives of any "friend" who didn't congratulate you and more importantly the one who asked about timing when your parents are poorly? What could possibly be their motive? To continue to feel superior to you? Sometimes in life you realise that those around you are negative people, desperate to hear of your struggles because it fills a need in them. Maybe to feel better about themselves and their own life.

You are more than just a Mum, you are a person with wants and needs. I have helped some friends on a course access higher education also in their 30s when they too had children. You deserve it, serving yourself isn't selfish.

Thelostparent · 20/10/2022 12:17

Wow, thankyou, all of you!, every comment has in a way confirmed who exactly I have around me at this stage of my life. A lot of people around me have relied and definitely took for me for granted. A LOT of people around me are definitely twats! Born and bred apparently. I'm so happy you have all recognised it too. Happy tears!

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Thelostparent · 20/10/2022 12:22

KettrickenSmiled · 20/10/2022 11:29

The question that hurt the most was, why would you start a degree knowing how poorly your parents are?

"Because I have a responsibility to support my entire family, not just my parents. I've spent over a decade in a 100% caretaking role & now it's time to step up my own career & earnings. For the good of my family - & also myself, if that's not too outrageous a concept for your to handle."

Alternatively - "thanks for your assumption that I should be nothing more than a default caretaker for the rest of every family member's life, & should never look to better my own situation."

Honestly OP whoever said that was being an utter twat.
Maybe they are a twat, or maybe they just had a twattish moment. Perhaps along the lines of That Friend who becomes unsupportive/low level bitchy when you lose weight/get a promotion etc ...
People around you may be resentful that you've discovered your brains & ability & may be moving up in the world. Some other might just feel thrown out that you have changed your priorities. You'll work out who's got your best interests at heart - sod anyone who doesn't champion you.
It's your turn - go for it, & well done!

Spot on!

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BIWI · 20/10/2022 12:26

Why have you posted this twice?

CleopatrasBeautifulNose · 20/10/2022 12:32

You're amazing, your family is amazing, your dh is amazing.
Yes climb up, get on, build a brilliant future. With the solid cornerstones you have there why would you not bring on whatever life can offer to you.

To do that takes graft. I know cos I did similar (though in easier circumstances) and, basically I faded away from people's view a lot. Course I did! I had my head down studying and raising my family.
It was lonely at times and hard work but I had my eye on the prize.
Fortunately I didn't have anyone complaining about what I was doing. I was allowed to fade out to get the job done.

Anyone adding criticism to your pile of stuff to think about is either really selfish or has no concept of what you're achieving.

Not to mention that when they complain your own cognitive dissonance kicks in and the complaints have a resonance they don't really deserve.

You're breaking your mould and you're taking your family with you.

all we can do is play the hand we're dealt, you got some tough challenges (oh boy) but you also got some fab blessings (phew), if you can raise yourself and create opportunity for better cards to come your way, why wouldn't you!
Takes character which you clearly have.

Bloody good for you. 🏅 I'm cheering you on. Keep up the good work.

Thelostparent · 20/10/2022 12:37

BIWI · 20/10/2022 12:26

Why have you posted this twice?

I'm completely new to mumsnet, I'm via mobile, had no clue what I was doing, sorted now 😅

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Thelostparent · 20/10/2022 12:39

CleopatrasBeautifulNose · 20/10/2022 12:32

You're amazing, your family is amazing, your dh is amazing.
Yes climb up, get on, build a brilliant future. With the solid cornerstones you have there why would you not bring on whatever life can offer to you.

To do that takes graft. I know cos I did similar (though in easier circumstances) and, basically I faded away from people's view a lot. Course I did! I had my head down studying and raising my family.
It was lonely at times and hard work but I had my eye on the prize.
Fortunately I didn't have anyone complaining about what I was doing. I was allowed to fade out to get the job done.

Anyone adding criticism to your pile of stuff to think about is either really selfish or has no concept of what you're achieving.

Not to mention that when they complain your own cognitive dissonance kicks in and the complaints have a resonance they don't really deserve.

You're breaking your mould and you're taking your family with you.

all we can do is play the hand we're dealt, you got some tough challenges (oh boy) but you also got some fab blessings (phew), if you can raise yourself and create opportunity for better cards to come your way, why wouldn't you!
Takes character which you clearly have.

Bloody good for you. 🏅 I'm cheering you on. Keep up the good work.

Thankyou! And congratulations to you too on your achievements. Its hard, but like you said once we have our eyes on the prize it's staying there. Xx

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