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I know he's not naughty but what do I do

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freespirit333 · 19/10/2022 09:54

I'm posting in AIBU for traffic. I've learned more about neurodiversity from reading Mumsnet than anywhere else so I'm hoping I'll get some words of wisdom.

My DS is in year 2, about to turn 7. I've wondered since he was 3 whether he is neurodiverse and I have completely accepted it in the last year or so. When he just turned 3 it was a few comments from pre school - not listening, playing alone, defiance. He settled well into the nursery class at school (so he was 3, nearly 4 at this age) and then lockdown happened so he was at home until reception. Reception seemed fine at first too, at his October parents' evening his teacher said he doesn't concentrate on the mat "but that's his age". We actually saw a paediatrician that winter as I had referred him for assessment via the health visitor when he was at the pre school. As we didn't have many concerns at that point, and his teacher hadn't mentioned anything, the paediatrician discharged him.

I started wondering again towards the end of reception as his teacher said he makes random noises in class. I noticed in a club that all the other children were looking at the coach when they were talking, whilst DS was looking anywhere else, fiddling with the equipment etc. I asked the SENCO at school to observe him, she also noticed that he never appears to be listening, however takes it in as he can answer questions. This is has been the theme throughout - he doesn't look as if he is listening when teachers are making presentations to the whole class, but he must have as the knowledge is there.

I didn't much like his Y1 teacher, she was known for being strict and labelled him as a naughty boy, but didn't communicate much of this to me until I raised it when DS himself told me he is always on the storm cloud for being naughty. I told her that I suspected ND but I don't think she ever made any allowances and I was glad when he finished.

He's now in Y2, the teacher is really different. I haven't had any feedback until today, which is parents' evening (morning!). She said that he gets up to wander around when he should be sitting and listening as a whole class (he's ok when he's on task, in their groups). He gets frustrated when told he can't get up or told to sit down, and is sometimes rude as a result. She said she can see he is a lovely boy, with a big heart, very sensitive, and he apparently always seems to realise quickly if he's done/said something he shouldn't, he says sorry etc. Academically he is doing well, his reading and writing are fine. She said he's really enthusiastic about things that he enjoys like books, reading etc. She was so lovely and I can see he's in good hands, but I don't know where to go from here. I have asked what strategies they've tried to stop the wandering around, she said they've tried doing the whole class presentations on the mat or at the tables, but neither seems to have worked.

I just don't know where to go from here. We have re-referred DS for an ASD/ADHD assessment already, but the waiting list is over 2 years, and really what will a diagnosis achieve anyway. His teacher this year is great and hasn't labelled him as naughty as she says she can see he's not to blame, almost as if he can't help it. It's not affecting his learning at the moment, and he has friends too. But I'm so worried that this will change, and I just struggle with the whole idea. DS has been through really difficult phases at home but they're always phases, I think overall he is a good boy, he says sorry freely when he's been cheeky or rude. He doesn't have any of the usual ASD challenges around sensory stuff or rigidity. He is very loud and can be on the go a lot - in a restaurant he needs to be entertained actively until the food arrives. But equally I wouldn't say he's hyperactive, and the fact that he can concentrate when "on task" also makes me think it's not ADHD.

If any of this sounds like any of your DC, I'd really appreciate some advice.

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freespirit333 · 19/10/2022 14:30

Yeah he doesn’t sit with his legs just dangling at the table, usually legs crossed.

I don’t think there’s anything available before a diagnosis in terms of pathways. The waiting list in our authority is particularly long as I’m in a large city.

I want action, basically, as I feel like we have been coasting and waiting and seeing since his reception teacher mentioned the silly noises 18 months ago. I will ask for any kind of sensory tools they can offer (should a school provide them or would we be expected to? It is a large school, with decent funding, if that matters. 3 form entry), ask to trial some and also ask for a reward system of sorts. DS responds really well to praise and all teachers have acknowledged this, but then don’t seem to do much about it. They all get dojo points so I think he needs small goals - do his best to sit quietly and listen, with a fidget tool/seat, and if he can he gets a point. I need to ask them to keep in regular contact with me so I can reinforce at home. He has been so well behaved at home since going back to school after the summer, and we always praise him at home for being kind/helpful/listening etc.

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freespirit333 · 19/10/2022 17:39

Just spoke to DS about the conversation with the teacher, treading carefully as I’m so concerned about damaging his (already fragile IMO) self esteem. He was adamant he doesn’t get up and wander around but then after some gentle chatting, that he maybe gets up to ask to go to the toilet/get a drink without putting his hand up.

He kept saying sorry, I feel so sad for him that he thinks he is bad.

We have agreed to concentrate on those two goals, staying sitting, and sitting quietly, just for a few days, and see how we do. I have promised him new Lego if he can do it. His teacher was receptive to keeping in contact at least which is more than I can say about last year’s, I only pick up once a week though so it’s tricky.

In the meantime the SENCO is going to arrange a meeting so we can discuss other strategies eg fiddle objects then.

Interestingly his teacher said today that she tried framing her request a different way, instead of “don’t do xyz”, she said DS please could you help me by coming back to sit down, and that he did really well. That seems quite basic to me but hopefully it’ll keep working.

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