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To think that a teacher in a classroom is a must?

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WhatHo · 17/10/2022 14:47

TLDR: We think the head of year is going to be pushed out and that they won't bother to replace them but will get the totally unqualified, 18 year old TA to educate them instead.

In a nutshell... This is Y6 at a primary and currently being prepared for secondary - some in the class are doing private entrance exams, some grammar, some state.

Teacher is in dispute with the school management and has semi checked out. We think they are probably going to be pushed out but no one really knows. If it's not them, it might be the Head or Dep Head. It's a toxic shitshow and we are all just gritting our teeth for end of year.

This dispute has affected a chunk of their time in Y5 and is rumbling into Y6. Last week a group of them needed to be prepared for entrance exams... and the teacher was off for one of the days. They literally had 2 x interview practices the day before the exam.

The teacher is both Head of Year and English teacher. Their lessons are covered by TA when the teacher is ill/away. The current TA is fresh out of school herself (did her A Levels in May). She is absolutely lovely and the children adore her but there are mixed needs and abilities in the class, including SEN, notably severe ADHD.

At the moment I would say that the English lessons are still being prepared by the Head of Year. What I am profoundly worried about is whether, if they are pushed out, they will basically use this TA to do all the English lessons. Just to make sure our gears are really ground, this is a private primary so we are paying for this farrago.

Can anyone tell me if us parents have any rights in this situation, if not a teacher at the very least an actual TRAINED TA?! I worry that because it's private they will tell us to pound sand.

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surreygirl1987 · 17/10/2022 18:51

The parents were never made aware she wasn't actually a qualified teacher.

Yep, this is often the case.

Pinkflipflop85 · 17/10/2022 19:07

LindseyHoyleSpeaks · 17/10/2022 18:03

That’s appalling. I’d want a refund! Lots of parents asking might focus the head’s mind?

One of mine was taught by a TA for a lot of last year as their teacher seemed to have an aversion to work. I say ‘taught’ - as a PP says, it was a shitshow. Head didn’t really care, seemed more bothered there was an adult with a pulse in the class. Surely the basic expectation is that schools employ enough teachers to - you know - teach?!

I'm sure most schools would live to hire enough teachers.

But there's a big problem with recruitment and retention in this country. Never mind the fact that we can't even convince enough people to train to teach in the first place.

WhatHo · 17/10/2022 21:42

Givenuptotally · 17/10/2022 15:56

I work in an independent - the school prides itself on only employing qualified teachers and is a point used in marketing.

There is nothing you can do other than appeal to the school's bank balance. They won't want children removed en masse and ultimately, I would imagine many would indeed remove their children if they were to be taught full time by an 18 year old TA. There is no way our parents would put up with it!

As parents, you shouldn't be aware of any internal shennanigans so that in itself makes me wonder what on earth is going on. Are you happy with the school otherwise?

I was happy with it for several years, my older child got a great experience all the way through and with the same teacher, but it seems to have fallen apart.

And I agree we shouldn't know anything. However the decay in lesson standards has meant there has been a lot of grumbling and complaints, and Unfortunately one of my friends is being pressured by the Head to go further so she is talking about it. Like I say it's a shitshow.

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WhatHo · 17/10/2022 22:47

donttellmehesalive · 17/10/2022 18:43

They wouldn't get many bums on seats next September if they started using unqualified classroom assistants as teachers. What makes you think they'd do this? It sounds like a lot of gossipy parents are just guessing. Using her for short periods of unexpected cover, when she might actually do a decent job and know the kids better than a supply teacher (if they can get one) is very different to employing her to plan, teach, assess and mark. I expect, if they manage her out, they will also be recruiting.

I don't know for sure, and I'm happy to admit that. But they have treated this year badly in other ways and once bitten twice shy. If they did try I want to make sure I have evidence that it's not allowed. But as I feared, based on this thread private school is a grey area.

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