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AIBU to worry about a U-turn on the energy price cap?

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DahliaMacNamara · 14/10/2022 13:27

I have no idea if they can or would do this. If someone can explain why it would never happen, that'll make it a nice short thread. Anyone?

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Henowner · 14/10/2022 13:28

Anything the Tories do from now on wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Overthebow · 14/10/2022 13:29

It could happen but it’s more likely going to be a u turn on the tax cuts

user53852098 · 14/10/2022 13:33

Sounds like it will be corporation tax, if there hadn't have been for the sacking it would probably have been an announcement rather than PC

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DahliaMacNamara · 14/10/2022 15:07

Well, now I'm convinced.

Still, no point worrying there might be a fart lurking in a bed full of turds.

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WatchoRulo · 14/10/2022 15:10

They can't change the energy price help. If they abandon that there will be serious unrest because very large numbers of people will be unable to pay and that will knock on to the closure of a very large number of businesses.

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DahliaMacNamara · 17/10/2022 11:17

Hmmm.
That looks like a U-turn in the distance to me.

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user53852098 · 17/10/2022 11:19

I think a U turn either after April or October now then means tested so this winter will stay as is

Grumpybutfunny · 17/10/2022 11:20

Ffs so once again the tax payer loses out and benefits aren't cut 😡

PanicAtTheBigTesco · 17/10/2022 11:21

Yep staying the same until April but a u-turn in the sense that Truss originally guaranteed 2 years of help.

Sounds like it will be means tested after April, and will probably be a measly amount even if you do get it.

SafeMove · 17/10/2022 11:21

The thing is, it might be a distant U Turn but it is still a U Turn. Truss said 2 years. April 2023 is not two years. Will the Ukraine war be over by April 2023?

Thisismynamenow · 17/10/2022 11:23

SafeMove · 17/10/2022 11:21

The thing is, it might be a distant U Turn but it is still a U Turn. Truss said 2 years. April 2023 is not two years. Will the Ukraine war be over by April 2023?

He's basically thrown the 2 years out the window. And said it's only until April now.

user53852098 · 17/10/2022 11:26

Ah, yes, I see on BBC now, a review in April

hownowpurplecow · 17/10/2022 11:26

Grumpybutfunny · 17/10/2022 11:20

Ffs so once again the tax payer loses out and benefits aren't cut 😡

Benefits are already barely liveable, they should be taxing the rich more and not targeting the most vulnerable. Why would plunging the poorest families further into poverty ever be the solution? Especially when a great deal of “benefits” recipients are either in work, disabled or receiving a pension.

NoMichaelNo · 17/10/2022 11:27

Grumpybutfunny · 17/10/2022 11:20

Ffs so once again the tax payer loses out and benefits aren't cut 😡

Why should benefits be cut?

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DahliaMacNamara · 17/10/2022 11:27

I wonder if they'll just say 'Fuck it', call an election, and let Labour deal with the fallout, whether that's borrowing more money to provide support after April or throwing households and businesses under the bus.

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user53852098 · 17/10/2022 11:29

Since Truss has been banging on about this 2 year energy thing in every interview, the only way forward is resignation if that has gone

FourTeaFallOut · 17/10/2022 11:29

Financial interventions need to be far more targeted that the board strokes of protecting everyone in society from the volativity of the energy market.

This two year stint of protecting all consumers would cost the country an arm and a leg and dwarfs all the other tax measures people objected to. Not to mention that it buoys inflation which people will pay for in their mortgage repayments.

girlmom21 · 17/10/2022 11:30

The cap now only lasts as long as the monthly payments. Lovely.

cherrypn · 17/10/2022 11:34

Grumpybutfunny · 17/10/2022 11:20

Ffs so once again the tax payer loses out and benefits aren't cut 😡

Why on earth are you angry at the poorest and not the richest?

midgetastic · 17/10/2022 11:34

Work needs to pay though

People should be rewarded by work and all that will happen is more working households will need benefits to keep a roof over their head and those working 49+ hrs a week will get increasingly angry that once additional costs of work are taken into account they are no better off than those on benefits and it will create a more hateful divided society

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midgetastic · 17/10/2022 11:35

It's the suspicioun that it's not the richest who will be hit but the middles

girlmom21 · 17/10/2022 11:35

Grumpybutfunny · 17/10/2022 11:20

Ffs so once again the tax payer loses out and benefits aren't cut 😡

If benefits get cut the most vulnerable people will die.

floataboat · 17/10/2022 11:36

I wasn't expecting this u turn to be honest, although perhaps I should have been. It really didn't occur to me that this would be changed, and now I feel terrified about energy bills again.

I'm sure there will be more targeted support, but I doubt we'll qualify for it, and yet we are having to watch every penny as it is.

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DahliaMacNamara · 17/10/2022 11:36

I don't think turning on people who are already on the bones of their arse helps to avoid a 'more divided society'.

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