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Anxiety - what to try before ADs? Kalms? Rescue Remedy?

22 replies

User112 · 13/10/2022 03:24

As you can tell, I’m up worrying about pointless things. Last time this happened, we were in a pretty bad state. Later I took therapy and got prescribed ADs. I did not take the ADs, instead ate well, exercised and moved jobs. We also moved to a beautiful house! So it was all ok for a while.

Global turndown, stock market downturn, inflation etc is keeping me super worried (even though our mortgage is fixed for 5yrs).

Is there anything I can try before going back to the GP? Has anyone tried Kalms / Rescue Remedy?

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Q2C4 · 13/10/2022 03:33

Cognitive behavioral therapy has helped a friend of mine who suffers badly with anxiety. Have you tried that / has it ever been suggested? It seems you can get a referral via a GP or you can self refer. www.nhs.uk/mental-health/talking-therapies-medicine-treatments/talking-therapies-and-counselling/cognitive-behavioural-therapy-cbt/overview/

AliceAbsolum · 13/10/2022 03:44

CBT. Or applied relaxation. Kalms and rescue remedy won't help you with worry.

Idontdoyoga · 13/10/2022 05:01

I’m not really a believer in alternative therapies like homeopathy but I’ve recently been taking Aconite for anxiety & panic attacks.
Worked a treat.

Somehow when a panic attack “came over me” it was less severe & symptoms weren’t so bad so I coped better.

I bought my supply from Amazon. 3 small tabs a day, chewed. Pleasant to taste. Worth a try?

Hollyhead · 13/10/2022 05:20

I find outdoor exercise very effective.

yoshiblue · 13/10/2022 05:29

Do you drink alcohol? Completely cutting it out cured my anxiety!

bluejelly · 13/10/2022 05:37

Headspace and exercise helped me. Medication and therapy totally cured me.
Best of luck OP Flowers

TheFuckingDogs · 13/10/2022 05:48

CBD patches (can buy from Lloyds pharmacy) I have recently found to be very helpful. Didn’t expect them to work for PMT related anxiety but I was much better than I usually am.
however I really think anything needs to be in combination with other things so no booze, little bit of exercise too.
hope something helps

achangeisafoot · 13/10/2022 05:57

Magnesium and exercise

Bien22 · 13/10/2022 06:14

Meditation/ mindfulness.

Exercise you enjoy. Swimming/walking/yoga help me a lot. Don’t do them enough! Also. Boxercise.

Talking therapies. Also used Thrive app (CBT app).

WarriorN · 13/10/2022 06:16

Magnesium and taurine really help me. Also hrt...!

I ask for beta blockers when bad so I can use them v short term and then work on sleep, exercise and diet, plus cbt.

Just started learning about stoicism (here) too which is very helpful

WarriorN · 13/10/2022 06:26

Stocism
Thread linking to lots of links and the other stoicism thread...!

Stoicism for women www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4652635-stoicism-for-women

Devo1818 · 13/10/2022 06:29

Valerian capsules or St John's wort.

speakout · 13/10/2022 06:33

I know ADs work for some people, they didn't agree with me.

I have suffered GA for a lot of my adult life, but it rarely troubles me now.
For me a combination of solutions work best.
Plenty sleep, avoiding alcohol, talking therapy, daily yoga - including 5 yoga classes a week. I meditate every day- often just for 10 minutes and build self care practice into my day.
You tube has some great videos for meditation, but also to take control when anxiety spirals.
I think everyone's healing will look slightly different- but it absolutely can be beaten.

WarriorN · 13/10/2022 06:35

I second yoga when I was younger. I used to sleep incredibly well. It was a strength training one on a Monday and really helped de frag Monday eves Unfortunately I couldn't do it when not very well for a while - which I do think was partially early peri menopause.

verdantverdure · 13/10/2022 06:39

Yoga Nidra on Spotify or YouTube?

DrDetriment · 13/10/2022 06:43

Ashwaghanda. It's a cortisol adaptogen and very helpful. Also meditation, exercise, no alcohol or caffeine. CBT therapy. Medication should always be the absolute last resort if all these have failed. Good luck. Anxiety is horrible.

Msloverlover · 13/10/2022 06:44

Meditation!!! And eft tapping. EFT tapping works for me as a quick fix if I am spiralling but meditatikn, if done every day (only 10 mins to start with) stopped the anxiety from even starting, I now don’t suffer from it at all. I used the insight timer app (courses are good to start with).

kshaw · 13/10/2022 06:45

St Johns wort. I thought was amazing but found out it messed with my contraceptive pill so had to stop

DaisyWaldron · 13/10/2022 06:48

See if you can self-refer for CBT in your area. I found it made a huge difference.

Icannever · 13/10/2022 08:09

Magnesium, liquid b12 drops, reflexology, cranial sacral therapy, walking in the woods and Pilates are all helpful for me

Zippedydoo123 · 13/10/2022 08:12

Magnesium is good. Take evenings. Valerian tea tastes shit but also really helps. Lavender oil on the temples also calms you down.

Alkaline foods are better than acidic eg yoghurt. Look up alkaline foods and cut down on spices and caffeine.

YorkshireLeedsLass · 13/10/2022 09:05

Avoid alcohol as its a depressant. Try one breathing exercises, or a guided relaxation session - loads on youtube. Calms are pretty rubbish imho, and there are lots of snake oil products out there too. A lot of people swear by cbd products but I haven't tried any so can't comment personally. We used to have a stressed rescue cat, and we were advised to put a pen drops in her water. It stopped her stress behaviours, and they came back quite quickly when we ran out and decided not to bother with more. Maybe 2 weeks before she had bald patches from over grooming - so we bought more a pen and again, after a few days it stopped.

ADs are not addictive in the way opiates are. Opiates are very easy to abuse as people like the sensations that occur offer it enters your body. It's not just junkies and wasters, it's also many people who have had pain relief given by their GP, without any counselling on the potential for addiction. Before you know it, Mr Smith the high school teacher, who had a bump in his car and got whiplash, is popping pills like sweeties. Opiates are rubbish for pain for some many people, but make them care about the pain a little less! Mr Smith meanwhile has discovered that he can cope with his class better if he is a little fuzzy round the edges, and is taking pills more often than prescribed. One weekend he runs out, and before 24 hours are up he is in full withdrawal, pacing, sweating, flu like symptoms, yawning uncontrollably, stretching uncontrollably, hurting all over, head pounding, eyes streaming, not able to eat or drink, sweating buckets, and not being able to think about anything else but his meds - not pretty!
AD don't have the same potential for abuse, as for most people they can't even tell they have taken it, so why take more? ADs take a while to kick in, maybe as long as a fortnight. Gradually you feel better and one day you realise that. It's often just something basic like shopping. You go in week 1, dread it, hate it find it really hard. Week two you dread and hate it a lttle less, and realise that actually it wasn't as hard as last week. You maybe find a film funny for the first time in ages etc. ADs need to be tapered off slowly, preferably with GPs help, as your body has become dependant on the chemicals, and you will have nasty symptoms of you stop abruptly - though many people do and are fine.
People often forget that depression is a potentially fatal illness... So it's probably better to put up with a chemical addiction than throw yourself off a bridge. ADs treat the symptoms, but you still have to work on the cause, usually via talking therapies.
take care of yourself hun x

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