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Surely Kwasi Kwarteng should get sacked

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mintywinter · 11/10/2022 22:35

Given the disastrous situation and the fact that something needs to be done, surely Kwasi can't hold on to his job?

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Tigerblue4 · 12/10/2022 10:43

lannistunut · 11/10/2022 23:40

What we need is an election. This situation is ridiculous.

I understand there's going to be a debate about a GE on 17 October, but I doubt it'll go anywhere. Going to be very interesting to see which Conservative MPs take part!

DaphneduM · 12/10/2022 10:46

I watched Treasury questions in Parliament yesterday. (Sad, I know - but I had a bit of time on my hands) - he actually answered very few of the questions - most of them were dealt with by the ghastly Chris Phelps and equally smug and ghastly Andrew Griffiths. Kwarteng's answers were incredibly brief and it was not a credible or confident performance. When you've got your own MP's querying whether he knew about the huge budget shortfall when he prepared it (Mark Harper) you know there's a big problem.

It's got the feeling of something hugely bad about to happen - all self-inflicted - but we will all be suffering for it. Desperate times - we need an election before they completely ruin the country.

mintywinter · 12/10/2022 10:55

I think the best option would be a government of national unity, bring together the best of all parties and find a way through this shit, turf out the loonies then hold a GE when everything stabilises

Yes that seems like a good plan. Surely we've got to rely on Tory MPs to do the right thing now though in order to make any changes? It's a right mess.

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MarshaBradyo · 12/10/2022 10:59

DaphneduM · 12/10/2022 10:46

I watched Treasury questions in Parliament yesterday. (Sad, I know - but I had a bit of time on my hands) - he actually answered very few of the questions - most of them were dealt with by the ghastly Chris Phelps and equally smug and ghastly Andrew Griffiths. Kwarteng's answers were incredibly brief and it was not a credible or confident performance. When you've got your own MP's querying whether he knew about the huge budget shortfall when he prepared it (Mark Harper) you know there's a big problem.

It's got the feeling of something hugely bad about to happen - all self-inflicted - but we will all be suffering for it. Desperate times - we need an election before they completely ruin the country.

It’s good you watched it we can the report back ;

When is the mini budget vote? They may not get it through that would end Kwarteng supposedly

I don’t want a GE as we need immediate action and campaigning plus the period where there has to be no new stuff (can’t remember name) is not what we need

I’d take a direct swap of leader though - in a day for Sunak

Then Labour can win at at calmer time - I doubt they’ll lose

mintywinter · 12/10/2022 11:28

I’d take a direct swap of leader though - in a day for Sunak

Me too - he did warn that LT would cause problems.

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lannistunut · 12/10/2022 11:36

mintywinter · 12/10/2022 10:55

I think the best option would be a government of national unity, bring together the best of all parties and find a way through this shit, turf out the loonies then hold a GE when everything stabilises

Yes that seems like a good plan. Surely we've got to rely on Tory MPs to do the right thing now though in order to make any changes? It's a right mess.

I don't agree. Government of national unity is for an external crisis. This is a Tory-created crisis, they could fix it if they chose.

Fix it or fuck off, Truss.

Alexandra2001 · 12/10/2022 13:50

lannistunut · 12/10/2022 11:36

I don't agree. Government of national unity is for an external crisis. This is a Tory-created crisis, they could fix it if they chose.

Fix it or fuck off, Truss.

Can it be fixed?

Seems to me the damage has been done and its now irreversible, if a gilt is bought on a 5% yield, thats what the Govt will pay.

..and accord to a former govt pensions minister, existing schemes of those close to retirement will be among the ones paying for this mess as there simply isn't the time to make good the loses funds have endured recently (closer you get to retirement, the more funds switch into gilts/bonds, as previously assumed safer than shares)

YourUserNameMustBeAtLeast3Characters · 12/10/2022 13:56

The U.K. economy is about to go into free fall due to his and Truss’s decisions. It’s not just the world economy, most countries are not doing as badly as us.

THEY NEED TO GO.

Get a coalition to rescue the country, put party politics aside.

I am so cross.

we should be marching in the streets. I can’t I’m too busy trying to work a way through this mess with the organisation I work for. Hot on the heels of covid we can’t cope.

freedomfromdat · 12/10/2022 15:57

Truss is totally clueless. And that smirk.......

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