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To hate packing food to take to work

327 replies

waitingforautumn · 11/10/2022 08:50

I live just outside and work in central London. Cost of living rising means I'm starting to feel guilty about the money spent on coffee, breakfast and lunch at work. I do somewhat 'budget' for this (i.e. am single, no kids, don't care for designer stuff etc, walk where I can rather than train or bus). However I do realise how much I could save if I were really disciplined about going to the supermarkets and stocking up for a week of homemade lunches and prepped breakfasts, which do sound appealing in theory..

Only issue is, I REALLY tend to miss buying things out - esp lunch. Just being able to pick something new each day, made with ingredients I wouldn't usually buy. I just feel like I eat more healthily/get more variety when I allow myself this. There's the option of sandwiches and baguettes (Pret/Paul/Leon type thing) plus lots of hot options where I work. I also love a good old Tesco meal deal so often have that for lunch too (love the mix and matching element).

Can cheapen breakfast by stopping at a supermarket bakery on way (£1 for a pastry rather than say £2.50). And it's still lovely (am a sucker for pastries and now associate office days with getting one). In the past I've made overnight oats and did keep that up for a while but got out of the habit after the pandemic return to work, and also loathe the washing up part at the office sink.😆

Is it me or is there something nice about strolling to work with a coffee you didn't have to make yourself, a fresh pastry and picking up a lunch you didn't have to plan way in adv or prep?!

I do wonder if this is quite a London thing with all the variety around. Have to be up around 6.30 to get around without the trains/tubes being busy so it feels to early to eat something before leaving home - and I'm always hungry when I sit down having had to walk past upteen bakeries to get in! I feel stopping for coffee/food helps make the working day nicer, I can pick something I fancy there and then. Few colleagues bring anything to eat from home and get all their meals/drinks out for the day so this really feels like the norm. We must all be spending anywhere from £5-£15 a day on all this. 🤔

Nobody single from my generation can afford to get on the housing ladder here anyway, even with decent savings. Some of my friends easily spend £35 a pop getting nails done every 3 weeks, which is outrageous to me. So I'm inclined to say whatever treats get you through life?!

AIBU? Am I lazy? Do I need to find another source of joy in my life? Writing this on the train on the way to work obvs and I have absolutely nothing on me for the day ahead!

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Downdaysoon · 11/10/2022 10:39

cooolio · 11/10/2022 08:53

"I do wonder if this is quite a London thing with all the variety around"

🙄

She's not wrong. In our commuter city, coffee and food shops either aren't open early or there is crap choice like Greggs etc. I love the ability to choose from loads of different food shops when in London.

Tsort · 11/10/2022 10:39

MsGrahamCheese · 11/10/2022 10:20

Depends how food motivated you are (and how much of a grind your job is).

I was asking if you, specifically, got excited about them. (And, in the context of this conversation, if you live in central London).

Emotionalsupportviper · 11/10/2022 10:39

Yeah the rest of us 'eer country folk just catch ourself whiche'er animal move slowest and throw it on the bonfire for lunch... we don't 'ave them fancy drink and san'wich places.

You must live very rurally, `@mam0918 - round here we have progressed to them there "horseless carriages" (just a fad - they'll never catch on). They often crush creatures under their wheels and we all rush out to grab it - the first person out there with a spatula is the one who eats best that night!

Emotionalsupportviper · 11/10/2022 10:40

Downdaysoon · 11/10/2022 10:39

She's not wrong. In our commuter city, coffee and food shops either aren't open early or there is crap choice like Greggs etc. I love the ability to choose from loads of different food shops when in London.

GREGG'S IS BRILLIANT!

DO NOT DISRESPECT THE PASTY! 😡

Aprilx · 11/10/2022 10:41

I worked in London for many years through my 20s and 30s and rarely, if ever, brought lunch in.

I don’t work in London any more, but my husband does and he regularly brings in his lunch, although he told me he bought lunch in one day last week and spent £12! He likes Asian food so he has a bento style lunch box and cooks different things up that will keep a few days and then fills up his bento box each morning.

I know work on a business park type of place outside London, we have a canteen but I don’t really want to eat from there. So I also make up a couple of different vegetable, pasta, salad options and put together a mixed lunch box each morning. I really enjoy it and think it is far preferable to the pret sandwich I used to have.

waitingforautumn · 11/10/2022 10:41

Divebar2021 · 11/10/2022 10:06

I live on the outskirts of London and work in the centre and the range of food options between the two are vast. There is a tons of street food vendors near my office - I really wish we had half the choice in my town. You’re not unreasonable to want to buy food
out but £10/ £15 a day is a whack so I’d save it maybe for a Friday treat. I bring in leftovers so it doesn’t impact too
much in the evening although I have to wear a rucksack because it’s all
pretty heavy

Really appreciate all of these well balanced comments! Haven't responded to every one but thank you (esp to those who have let my London comment slide - should have known it was an irrelevant fact 😂)

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Aprilx · 11/10/2022 10:41

*now not know

waitingforautumn · 11/10/2022 10:41

jay55 · 11/10/2022 10:07

It's my fave thing about office days. I've got a pret subscription for coffee now. And just budget for a nice lunch.
I'm lucky we also have a canteen so if I am low on budget I can get a baked potato with cheese and beans for under £3 and not need much for dinner.

One of my people! and yes I do the same with jacket and beans! X

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GonnaGetGoingReturns · 11/10/2022 10:42

Goldbar · 11/10/2022 10:37

I wouldn't bother with taking lunch tbh if you can afford to buy lunch out. I'd economise in other ways.

It's a time/money calculation. I'm not sure it's specifically a London thing but I do think it applies generally to people who work in city centres and have long commutes.

If:

  • You have to leave early in the morning.
  • You have a busy and draining rush hour commute which might involve standing for 40 minutes on a packed train.
  • You may frequently be late home due to travel disruptions.
  • You're trying to balance a busy work life with spending enough time with your partner/children; AND
  • You earn an above average salary which means you can afford to buy lunch out and still pay your other expenses

then it doesn't seem worth the stress of spending 1.5-2 hours a week preparing packed lunches when you get so much more enjoyment from eating something different every day prepared by someone else. Think about how much you'd pay someone to do that chore for you. Going on what the average cleaner earns around here by way of benchmark (around £17ph), that's around £25.50 worth of time spent preparing packed lunches per week plus the cost of ingredients (let's say around £10-15 for a loaf of bread, block of cheese, fruit, yoghurt and other typical lunch box staples). You could pretty much buy lunch out everyday for that.

It's a low payoff for the increased stress and decreased enjoyment.

But for me I have to be up at same time as OP to get to work, I still manage to make a packed lunch, coffee to take away. I prep the night before, granola in a bowl in cupboard, tea bag in takeaway tea/coffee cup, lunch prepped.

If I'm super busy/have to be extra early then I'll get a takeaway coffee/lunch out.

Or the other week, the takeaway coffee spilled and emptied, no time to make another one and was going via train anyway (express bus there is no cafe nearby!) so I bought tea/coffee at station cafe.

waitingforautumn · 11/10/2022 10:42

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 11/10/2022 10:08

a fresh pastry

That people have coughed all over while it's been out on display. Would never ever buy one of these having worked in a supermarket with 'fresh' pastries, uncovered on the shelves,

It's up to you how you spend your money. Do you want a round of applause that you can afford to do this?

Freshly coughed over is what I'm going for! ;)

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Downdaysoon · 11/10/2022 10:43

Emotionalsupportviper · 11/10/2022 10:40

GREGG'S IS BRILLIANT!

DO NOT DISRESPECT THE PASTY! 😡

Apologies for the pasty disrespect ! I do like to have the choice between a claggy sausage roll and watery coffee, or an almond croissant and flat white though. Variety is the spice of life and all that ...

waitingforautumn · 11/10/2022 10:43

Yerroblemom1923 · 11/10/2022 10:08

If I ate a pastry every day and a lunch out I'd be 20st in no time! I'm guessing you're one of those who likes to he seen with a Starbucks coffee in your hand at all times. Just get a refillable and bring from home. You can also bake pastries at home in your own oven. Or just heat up a ready made croissant if you cba baking.
Really just depends on your priorities. Do you want to save money? If so, cut back. If you want to "live the London Lifesyle" crack on as you have been .

I do appreciate the comments like this keeping things real! Basically the answer I would get if I were to consult my mum about the issue 😂 do appreciate your time thanku x

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Emotionalsupportviper · 11/10/2022 10:43

"We have here what's known as A CAFE, sometimes we also visit a SANDWICH SHOP, there's so much variety here that you wouldn't know about, living in the North and licking moss off a rock or whatever."

😂😂😂😂😂

luxxlisbon · 11/10/2022 10:44

LindseyHoyleSpeaks · 11/10/2022 10:25

Read the room, OP. Given that many people are struggling to afford even the basics, a stealth boast that you can afford to spend the best part of £50 a month on fripperies when everyone else is down to value cornflakes and water for breakfast isn’t nice.

These are the worst posts on mumsnet.

You’re basically saying nobody is allowed to post about anything nice, ever, because there are people worse off.

waitingforautumn · 11/10/2022 10:44

LifeInAHamsterWheel · 11/10/2022 10:10

Oh, you're describing me 20 odd years ago! I'm heading for 50 now, married with teens and all the expense that comes with them and the house etc. I don't regret it one bit! As you said, you don't treat yourself in other ways like getting nails done etc so just crack on! When you are a bit older and need to rein it in so you can afford other stuff, then you'll do it. For now, enjoy the pret lunches and the artisan coffee & pastries Smile

You sound like a healthy influence! Flowers

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Downdaysoon · 11/10/2022 10:44

Personally I'd crack on if I were you. I'd rather waste my money on things I enjoy than wallow in depression counting my pennies.

Emotionalsupportviper · 11/10/2022 10:45

Downdaysoon · 11/10/2022 10:43

Apologies for the pasty disrespect ! I do like to have the choice between a claggy sausage roll and watery coffee, or an almond croissant and flat white though. Variety is the spice of life and all that ...

Apology accepted. You probably don't know any better.

Enjoy your forrin muck.

😂

Odile13 · 11/10/2022 10:45

I think it’s doable to take breakfast & lunch to work. I commuted to the city for a long time and I took overnight oats for breakfast every day and a packed lunch Mon-Thurs. I got lunch out on a Friday as a treat. I got up super early in the morning so I’d pack my lunch in the evening. I’d make a double batch twice a week, so only had to prepare my lunches twice. It saved me loads of money.

user654387811 · 11/10/2022 10:45

Just make your own 2 or 3 days a week, saves money and good for the environment without all the packaging.

You should try visiting outside London though as we have some lovely takeaway gruel shops up here. You can even have it heated if you like the fancy stuff.

waitingforautumn · 11/10/2022 10:45

SeemsSoUnfair · 11/10/2022 10:15

Nobody single from my generation can afford to get on the housing ladder here anyway, even with decent savings. Some of my friends easily spend £35 a pop getting nails done every 3 weeks, which is outrageous to me. So I'm inclined to say whatever treats get you through life?!

From what I can see in our office there has definitely been an shift from being cost conscious on day to day things and saving for the big things you want (car, holiday, home, pension) to more (not all) younger people being sucked in by the businesses offering instant gratification/short term pleasure from treating themselves almost daily.

If our office you can see a definite age separation between colleagues bringing in their own food (thermos with porridge for breakfast which will have cost a few pence) to those with a daily bakery pastry/posh coffee.

As long as you have done your sums and are aware of the consequences to you longer term, you are free to choose whatever you prefer.

It is true. I'm hoping this thread can fuel a change in mindset :) enjoying it very much so far and appreciate everyone giving my post the time of day!!

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Downdaysoon · 11/10/2022 10:45

Emotionalsupportviper · 11/10/2022 10:45

Apology accepted. You probably don't know any better.

Enjoy your forrin muck.

😂

😆

AgentProvocateur · 11/10/2022 10:46

a pret breakfast and lunch are my reward to myself for working long hours in a stressful environment every day. I made packed lunches for years when the children were at primary school and. I will never, as long as live, make AND WRAP another sandwich. There are other things I will cut back on before Pret.

waitingforautumn · 11/10/2022 10:46

PeekAtYou · 11/10/2022 10:15

Have you tried frozen pastries (you can even get Pret branded ones)? They are as good as the ones that you get in store imo.
I used to work in zone 1 and when I ate out it was stuff that I wouldn't cook at home eg Pret had a crayfish sandwich and I've never gone to a fishmonger (I assume that is where you'd buy crayfish) I'm not inclined to buy sushi grade fresh fish to make sushi either.
At the end of the day it's your money and businesses will be grateful for it (especially the independents). Some people would rather save for a holiday or beauty treatments but if eating out is your thing then that's up to you.
I personally made coffee at work (even ground coffee from an independent coffee shop is much cheaper than asking for it to be made by a barista and even if you had to a buy a milk frother to use at work because you like milk with froth, you'd make it back quickly.

It does annoy me that we are charged x amount for a coffee and it is mostly milk 🥲

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MotherWol · 11/10/2022 10:46

@tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz So many choices! Your best bet would be Bermondsey Street - I love Comptoir Gourmand for proper French pastries, and you could wander up to the river and sit by the bridge to eat them, or the Vietnamese place for lunch. The cafe next to the Premier Inn (Bermonds Locke) is on Too Good To Go so you can get bargain bags there. Maltby Street market at weekends is brilliant, especially St John and Flor bakery, and you're not far from Borough Market either (thurs/fri less busy than weekends). If you want a fancy dinner, Casse Croute is perfect.

waitingforautumn · 11/10/2022 10:46

Lalalalimbo · 11/10/2022 10:17

Another tip to make bringing in lunch more appealing (if that’s what you want to do), buy some really nice Tupperware. Off the top of my head, Paperchase sell really lovely little pots and bits in different sizes but I’m sure there are others too. Makes it seem more of a treat. Pack a good book too and you’ll relish the time spent not queuing.

Adding to my new list of tricks, thank you !

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