to think I value my pelvic floor more than a tax break?!

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Apparently the batshit people in charge of the country think we should get a tax break for having more children. This isn’t at all creepy or like something out of The Handmaid’s Tale. Instead it’s taken from (checks notes) those bastions of women’s rights, freedom and democracy: Russia and Hungary.

AIBU to think that the costs to my pelvic floor, sleep and sanity (never mind buying a bigger house, car, childcare, career pause etc) are worth more than a tax cut?

Is it really much different to child benefit?
I see loads of people on here saying CB should automatically be paid to the mother. CB goes down with income so it’s basically a tax break. Are all those who think this is so much like Gilead giving up their CB allowance as it means they are being ‘paid to breed’?
Somehow I think that’s unlikely.

The lack of affordable childcare and housing is the biggest issues for families., we have the highest cost of childcare in Europe. For the year that I will have 2 in nursery it will cost 1700 a month, the majority of my salary.
My sister in Australia where childcane is substadised pays a fraction of that for her 2

It makes sense in a way. Nothing to do with control of women. It's incentivising behaviour for an economic end. No one is being forced.

An article in The Sun that says "a cabinet minister said..." but doesn't bother naming the minister. It sounds eminently trustworthy.

France gave lump sum payments for every child a few years ago, bigger payments for the 3rd/4th etc. not sure if it had the desired effect or not.
We have a rapidly ageing population, without more children or increased immigration, how are old people going to be cared for in 20/30/40 years time? Or do you think a Logan’s Run scenario is preferable in order to lower the tax burden to pay for pensions?

I can't see how it's much different from child benefit and child tax credits

I think because it's universal. Have a baby get a tax cut which I suppose is what child benefit used to be but child tax credits were targeted at lower earners.

This. Well maybe not I am at breaking point with a 5mo.

But yes full time childcare is 3x my mortgage. Ridiculous.

@BorgQueen I am sure there were
tax incentives over 40 years ago in France to have a third. I remember teachers at the school I did my year abroad at talking about it.

Most countries have some sort of tax benefit for married couples and parents. We used to have universal child benefit and a married tax allowance.

France goes even further. They award parents of large families a medal called the Médaille d’honneur de la famille française.

I voted YABU, but only because my traumatic first birth completely fucked my pelvic floor. My (incredibly) fast 2 subsequent births did not help. I did all my exercises too. It's very unfair. The government should not be offering tax breaks for multiple children though. It's not a good direction to be heading in.