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To think dd will get found out

19 replies

SwanLake66 · 08/10/2022 18:29

She currently has 2 part time jobs. She started the 2nd job last month and has been taxed on a basic rate tax code so automatically paid tax even though she's well below the threshold for paying it even with both jobs together.
Apparently to sort this issue she needs to give her p45 or p60 to new employer. But on both these documents it states the previous place of work. Dd left this off her cv as it wasn't for long and didn't really end well. She didn't get fired but it was a joint decision for her to leave amicably. She only told them her other job and the job she had before them.
If she phones inland revenue to change the tax code will they send those documents to her new employer? Not sure how it all works.

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NeedAHoliday2021 · 08/10/2022 18:32

Just show employer and explain she didn’t include them as it was such a short period and it didn’t demonstrate any skills they needed. Presumably they had the chance to get references?

SausageMonkey2 · 08/10/2022 18:34

She can fill out a new starter form but might take longer to sort out

Hellocatshome · 08/10/2022 18:34

To be honest the new employer probably won't either put two and two together or even care, especially if its a large enough company to have a payroll dept who will never even have seen her CV.

Georgiarule · 08/10/2022 18:36

She can just say she never received one from her last place of work. They’ll either do a new form or she’ll get what’s she over paid April

Zeb81 · 08/10/2022 19:04

She needs to fill in a new starter form as a second job, she can either claim the tax back at the end of the tax year or contact HMRC for a reconsideration of her tax codes for both employers if she is below the threshold

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 08/10/2022 19:09

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GingerbreadPanda · 08/10/2022 19:17

Found out for what? She hasn't done anything wrong. She hasn't (from what you've said) lied in her CV. She got a job based on provided experiance/qualifications, she is presumably competently doing that job.
They really won't care about the old job ( well they might be curious but it won't affect this one).

But if she doesn't want to hand over the paperwork, either new starter form of claim it back in April.

FatAgainItsLettuceTime · 08/10/2022 19:19

They won't notice. The person inputting the payroll info has probably never seen her CV and definitely won't have memorised it. You're overthinking it. If it does come up she can explain but I'd be willing to bet no one will ever mention it.

SwanLake66 · 08/10/2022 19:26

That's a relief then thank you all. I'm quite an anxious person and thought they might accuse her of lying about previous employment history and sack her!

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Schoolchoicesucks · 08/10/2022 20:53

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This. She can call HMRC and tell them her expected combined earnings and they will agree how to split her personal allowance and issue new tax code to both employers. They won't disclose previous employer to the new employer.
May take a while on hold but should get sorted.

Hotandbothereds · 08/10/2022 20:59

I agree that the payroll team won’t be interested in this kind of thing, they’ll just want to sort the code issue, they won’t be cross checking her CV, don’t worry.

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 08/10/2022 21:18

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JenniferWooley · 08/10/2022 21:20

She just needs to complete a new starter form & give it to her employer but as she's already on the payroll I assume she's done that & ticked box C (I have another job/income) hence the BR code which is correct in this situation.

They will report through RTI that she's now an employee & the HMRC wheels will turn & her 2nd employer will receive a corrected tax code for her through their system. Any overpaid tax will be corrected once the new tax code is applied.

Hellocatshome · 08/10/2022 21:22

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That's why I said if its a large enough company to have separate payroll dept. I have worked in small companies when the person dealing with payroll would also have dealt with recruitment and larhe companies where payroll wouldn't know diddly squat about what was on new employees CVs. Its up to OP or her daughter really to decided if they think this is something that will pass unnoticed or wether they would like to own up in advance.

JenniferWooley · 08/10/2022 21:23

To those saying they won't be cross checking her CV - if it's a small company the same person might be responsible for HR & payroll. I've been in this position & I would definitely have noticed if I was handed a p45 for a recent employer that had been left off a CV.

But the p45 isn't necessary as OP's DD still has another job so it's a new starter form & box C.

NortieTortie · 08/10/2022 21:23

Yabu. Can't imagine they'd notice or care.

Bywayofanupdate · 08/10/2022 21:27

No, they won't. She can call HMRC and they won't send anything other than her new tax code to her employer.

liveforsummer · 09/10/2022 08:54

I highly doubt they'll even look at that information let alone remember exactly which job was put as a last one. Unless it's an incredibly small company and the previous employer was something memorable that was discussed and one person does all the hiring plus admin. She can indeed just sort it with HMRC directly though

TrufflesForBreakfast · 09/10/2022 09:13

My dd has been trying to call HMRC for ages but they never answer the blinking phone, so she's had to send them a letter instead.

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