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Rescues which claim to be overrun.

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WannabeKittens · 08/10/2022 18:08

Have been looking to adopt some kittens. I have registered with multiple charities, all of which claim to be overrun as it is now kitten season.

I have even put in a query about some kittens which are being shown on the Celia Hammond site.

And none of them ever return my enquiries. Chat actually did send me an email asking for my details in order to do a home check, and I never heard from them again.

I’ve known several other people who have been through the same, charities claim to be overrun, but when push comes to shove they either never return calls or claim that they no longer have any cats available.

Same with dog rescues.

So if these centres are all so overrun with rescue animals, why is it virtually impossible to rescue one?

If I can’t rescue then I just won’t bother as I have no intentions of buying kittens on the internet. But it’s easy to see why so many people do.

OP posts:
RunningFromInsanity · 08/10/2022 20:38

Cats protection, Ely, Cambridge have loads of kittens

WannabeKittens · 08/10/2022 20:38

XenoBitch · 08/10/2022 20:25

Rescues want to have their cats/dogs adopted, but they also do not want them bouncing back after a couple of weeks either.

The thing to remember is that you are not owed a pet. Rescues exist to find good homes for their animals, not animals for good homes.

Well, if they want to find homes for their animals then you would think they would actually engage with wannabe homes.

It’s one thing to reject someone for whatever reason, although IMO a lot of the bigger rescues are part of the problem as people then just go out and buy puppies and kittens off gumtree which in turn encourages puppy farming and backyard breeding. But in this case I can’t even get the rescues to engage with me, which doesn’t exactly imply that they actually have animals available for rescue.

OP posts:
WiddlinDiddlin · 08/10/2022 20:40

I've been involved in some way with animal rescue for over 20 years...

Many are run by volunteers and committees with next to no actual animal knowledge nor business skills nor 'how to run a charity/organsation' skills.

Many such volunteer roles appeal very much to the sorts of people who have poor organisation and people skills.

Many believe this doesn't matter because if a prospective volunteer/adopter/fundraiser/whatever is worthy enough, they will try really hard to get a response via turning up, ringing repeatedly, chasing up emails etc (and therefore if they don't, they didn't really want to rehome an animal/volunteer/help in any way)...

Quite a lot believe they are doing you, the adopter or volunteer, a massive favour in allowing you to adopt/volunteer - as such they can be disorganised, rude, treat folk like crap, have ridiculous expectations of people because you should understand what huge honour it will be to.. whatever.

Very few are in it for the money, I can think of a couple of examples however:

One is a big fairly well known name, they rehome a LOT of animals, you will get a call back and a home check pretty promptly from these people and if your face fits, ie you're likely to toe the line, you're not likely to challenge anything or make waves.. great, meet the home check critera, dogs yours, etc.

They rake in MILLIONs. They effectively re-sell second hand animals. When a well known and INCREDIBLY qualified, wonderful, thoughtful, caring canine professional applied to rehome a dog from them.. they were declined. For no reason at all. (They later challenged that decision and said rescue looked sufficiently stupid to a sufficiently large audience that they backed down and the dog is now in a wonderful home).

Theres another I am aware of in Portugal, though they pretend they're in spain or the UK depending on which of their followers you ask. They appear to be hoarding some 60 dogs, without the required licencing/paperwork for where they live. They are still a reg charity, despite being over a year late in their accounts and repeated complaints to the CC about their behaviour. They don't do anything in their actual remit (to rehome abused and neglected dogs), they haven't rehomed a dog in two years or more. They keep taking in dogs but claiming they can't afford any dog food, which then generates funds. They can't show how they support themselves, yet claim not to take a wage for running the rescue, none of the figures add up even remotely... at this point they're just defrauding people out of money to pay for their dog hoard which is almost exclusively puppies of just one pedigree breed... mm!

Asides from these two examples, it is usually pretty easy to spot which rescues are in it for the money - they do few homechecks, they don't tend to follow up on dogs or do any behaviour or training work with them, they don't provide back up if theres an issue with the dog and they'll hand a dog to anyone.

Those decent rescues though, are suffering.

They are often still ultimately run by a committee of well meaning but unqualified people, even if the paid staff are qualifed and experienced they're hampered by what the committee will permit.

They formulate rehoming rules based on prior experience - unfortunately those experiences tend to be that people will promise the earth then call up two days later wanting the dog collected immediately because something obvious they were told about happened exactly as they were told...

There are more people trying to send them dogs to rehome (and some people honestly think they are owed this service or are donating their dog like thats a good thing...) and want the dog taken in NOW... there are people who call up, are told that the rescue is full, we'll put them on a waiting list.. and then we get the dog in off the dog warden a day later as a 'stray'... or it turns up tied to the gate.

People lie - as House says - people tell us a dog needs rehoming because the kid is allergic, and we take in the dog, assess the dog, discover the dog as an ingrained behaviour issue of biting people for looking at it wrong or a severe phobia that causes the dog to scream the place down or bolt in a blind panic, or it wants to kill every other dog in existance...

When people take in a dog and then want rid, they lie then too - I have lost track of the dogs I have assessed who have 'bitten the kid'.. and I cannot (not even using a child as bait (safely!!!)) get the dog to show me a single hint of aggressive behaviour, but he is not housetrained and can't be left whilst they go to work at the full time job they JUST got the day after they took in the dog and thus wasn't mentioned during homecheck or pre-adoption checks...

It ain't easy, none of it is and theres a reason rescuers burn out fast.

ella142 · 08/10/2022 20:42

OP I'm not sure if you are more here to rant about rescues than for help? I can promise you that rescues in general want nothing more than to find suitable loving homes for their animals and those of us in the thread who work and volunteer alongside them have repeatedly said this and offered advice.

XenoBitch · 08/10/2022 20:47

WannabeKittens · 08/10/2022 20:38

Well, if they want to find homes for their animals then you would think they would actually engage with wannabe homes.

It’s one thing to reject someone for whatever reason, although IMO a lot of the bigger rescues are part of the problem as people then just go out and buy puppies and kittens off gumtree which in turn encourages puppy farming and backyard breeding. But in this case I can’t even get the rescues to engage with me, which doesn’t exactly imply that they actually have animals available for rescue.

I understand. My mum tried to rescue a dog for years.
We got the impression that a lot of rescues have " preferred rehomers" on their books already, so they get first dibs. One time, she went through to the end with a potential pet, to find that they had been rehomed 2 months before.
At the end of the day, what matters is that a particular animal finds it's forever home.

Justfortherandomquestions · 08/10/2022 20:59

Whereabouts are you in the country, roughly? I know of a wonderful charity who has rehomed kittens but they are Surrey/South London based...called Here for Cats.
I know people who've adopted with them - given kittens loving homes but had found adopting through Cats Protection tough.

Justfortherandomquestions · 08/10/2022 21:02

When we were adopting it seemed that unless you lived rurally, had no children and worked from home you went to the back of the queue. Can understand why they'd favour these kinds of households of course but it can mean that families with children can get disheartened quickly & go to breeders as they're worried they'll never get a pet otherwise.

Blueeyedgirl21 · 08/10/2022 21:05

I recently paid 200 quid to rehome an adult tabby cat. He’s lovely but wtf. Also had to do two zooms and show them round my house even in my little girls room, and send them weekly updates on him. I mean I know they have to be careful but it was like being approved to adopt a real child 🤣

Oneandone · 08/10/2022 21:07

I found it really difficult to get an adult rescue cat as I have a 6yr old and so many rescue cats apparently can't be rehomed with young children. Ended up informally adopting one from a family directly who needed to move and couldn't take the cat with them. My child is absolutely fine with her. I do think rescues prevent cats from being adopted sometimes with so many restrictions in place.

RosannaRosanna · 08/10/2022 21:25

I've just adopted a kitten from Bow Lodge in dartford- they still have some needing homes. Also wisteria cat rescue in Chatham. Best to contact via Facebook. We saw our kitten on their Facebook page on the Thursday and she was with us by Monday. I absolutely love her

WahineToa · 08/10/2022 21:32

I do think rescues prevent cats from being adopted sometimes with so many restrictions in place.

it can definitely feel like that, but it’s because they really want to get the right fit for the animal. Lots of homes with children don’t work out and it’s very distressing for the animal to be returned and they struggle more with the next home. For those that work in rescue, it is as important as matching the right child with an adoptive human family. They take their job really seriously and as much as it’s a big exercise to adopt, I’m glad they try so hard to get it right the first time. We adore our rescues and they’re absolutely right for us. Our big boy is still an incredibly nervous cat and is very reliant on me, not everyone would take to him or want to keep him. Out newest is adorable and very very affectionate and needed people who could give her lots of attention and another cat around too.

VikingLady · 08/10/2022 21:43

We couldn't adopt a cat because all our local rescues insisted on an in person home check, and DD can't take having strangers in the house. Absolutely no leeway at all, despite piteous social media posts about being overrun. And even though the kids are older, no other pets, we've had cats before and I'm a SAHM.

In the end we bought kittens. Totally didn't want to. It was cheaper too.

Oneandone · 08/10/2022 21:46

WahineToa · 08/10/2022 21:32

I do think rescues prevent cats from being adopted sometimes with so many restrictions in place.

it can definitely feel like that, but it’s because they really want to get the right fit for the animal. Lots of homes with children don’t work out and it’s very distressing for the animal to be returned and they struggle more with the next home. For those that work in rescue, it is as important as matching the right child with an adoptive human family. They take their job really seriously and as much as it’s a big exercise to adopt, I’m glad they try so hard to get it right the first time. We adore our rescues and they’re absolutely right for us. Our big boy is still an incredibly nervous cat and is very reliant on me, not everyone would take to him or want to keep him. Out newest is adorable and very very affectionate and needed people who could give her lots of attention and another cat around too.

I appreciate that but my child grew up with a cat who sadly had to be put down when he was 5 before we tried to rescue another one. And he is very gentle and knows how to behave with cats. So I think if the rescue centres we tried had taken that into account we could have gotten a cat and it would have been ok. I didn't like that my son was viewed as some sort of menace by these places. But everything is maybe meant to be as I have my fluffy companion on the sofa next to me now!

Coasterfan · 08/10/2022 21:47

We found it really difficult to adopt a dog from various rescues, the kids were 11 and 9 at the time. In the end our cat adopted us! His owner didn’t want him and he happily transferred ownership to us (along with a £500 vets bill 😂😂)

Excited101 · 08/10/2022 22:04

Which branch op?

you need to keep ringing them, I know it’s a pain, it shouldn’t be this difficult but a lot of rescues are totally totally disorganised- run by incredibly well meaning volunteers. And yes, it’s why people often go to a kitten off gumtree instead of rescuing.

but, as I sit here with one of my foster babies on my lap, I can only encourage you to keep trying. They really are overrun- people didn’t get their cats neutered in the pandemic and got even more cats they didn’t want long term.

when I go into these centres and I walk past countless cats and kittens waiting in cages, it just breaks my heart. Please don’t give up.

StrawberryFizz27 · 08/10/2022 22:09

I can recommend sandbach animal rescue in the North West.
I've adopted my 3 dcats from there, a pair of 1 year old, who are now 4 and a kitten in Feb. I think I first contacted them via Facebook messenger.

I hope you manage to adopt a cat, the really are wonderful.

StarDolphins · 08/10/2022 22:10

I agree. I am a super responsible’til death do us part’ pet owner & have only ever had rescues, I just can’t bring myself to buy a dog/cat & seeing the state of the utterly shut down dogs on Many Tears that have been bred & bred circling round their pens absolutely petrified of humans reinforces this for me.

I don’t want to ever be without a pet but it just seems incredibly hard…even though, like you say, they’re all ‘closing intakes’ because they’re bursting at the seams.

ghislaine · 08/10/2022 22:33

Do try Rescue Animals of North Africa (ra-na.com although I think their Facebook and Instagram accounts are more up to date). They don’t often have kittens but they have lots of young adult cats.

mamabear715 · 08/10/2022 22:35

Totally agree @WannabeKittens
It was the same about 20 years ago when I was looking for another dog. Visited kennels etc, phoned, no-one ever got back to us apart from a rescue in another county who were brilliant, it's bloody ridiculous, I'm still annoyed about it all these years later.
(Got one through that rescue eventually.)

WahineToa · 08/10/2022 22:57

I’ve rescued in London and current town in the north. With children. Keep trying, it really is worth it!

saltinesandcoffeecups · 09/10/2022 00:14

I’m in the US for context but it’s the same here. Some rescue groups are just animal hoarders in disguise and nobody is good enough to adopt and some have reasonable criteria and really are trying to find animals permanent homes.

I’ve known a few people involved with animal rescue and the reasonable ones side eye the batshit crazy ones just as hard. An example was someone I know was rejected because of the dog food brand she fed her previous dog…apparently the grocery store brand wasn’t good enough despite inexplicably being the only one the dog wasn’t allergic to. Didn’t matter she literally spent $5K in vet bills to find out that relatively inexpensive but good dog food was the apparently animal abuse in the eyes of a rescue group.

Luckily we have the pound and the humane society which doesn’t get crazy with their rules.

kissmelittleass · 09/10/2022 00:50

I got both my kittens at different times from the vets I just asked and found they often have kittens

Thehop · 09/10/2022 00:53

We’ve had a really good experience with a Yorkshire rescue, I don’t suppose that’s your area is it?

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RainbowsMoonbeams · 09/10/2022 01:28

YANBU.

And if you do manage to get in touch, expect to be told you can only adopt if your have no children, no other pets and are at home all day.

I understand they need to filter out unsuitable potential owners, but this restrictive criteria must prevent many would-be good adoptions too.