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To be shocked about 3 people being stabbed over a phone?

41 replies

girlfriend44 · 06/10/2022 17:50

A gang tried to steal a man's phone in London thus morning resulting in 3 being stabbed.

When I heard it I thought they were probably trying to steal a load of phones then I read it was one?

Was it really worth all that over one phone?

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Overitallnow · 06/10/2022 18:27

Watch "Inside Britain's Moped Crime Gangs" on BBC 3 iplayer.

Florenz · 06/10/2022 18:31

What's the point in better funding the police when even when they do get arrested, charged and convicted, they get a couple of years (at most) in a laughably lax prison?

The unemployment rate in London is the lowest in recorded history. There's absolutely no excuse for being unemployed in London. Not at all.

Prescottdanni123 · 06/10/2022 18:37

Totally get people stealing out of desperation. I feel sorry for people who have spent their whole lives trying to be law abiding citizens being forced to resort to it.

Absolutely no sympathy for anyone who carries a knife and uses it on innocent people, whatever their circumstances.

TheVanguardSix · 06/10/2022 18:38

My now 20 year old was held at knife point, tackled, punched and kicked for his phone when he was 17. Woke me right up to the reality that a phone is more valuable than a life. And what was shocking at the time was how bored and feckless the police were because it really was/is a case of same full shit, different day. Sad, isn’t it?

TheVanguardSix · 06/10/2022 18:38

dull shit… not ‘full’. 🙄

NCandatingcrisps · 06/10/2022 18:42

Florenz · 06/10/2022 18:31

What's the point in better funding the police when even when they do get arrested, charged and convicted, they get a couple of years (at most) in a laughably lax prison?

The unemployment rate in London is the lowest in recorded history. There's absolutely no excuse for being unemployed in London. Not at all.

This is true, but the cost of accommodation is astronomical and there is no social housing. The cost of a single room in a house share is anything from 7 to 9 hundred £ a month. There might well be no kitchen/ fridge/ cooking facilities, so buying fresh food and cooking it is not possible.
Jobs for people with no qualifications are plentiful, but are minimum wage.
I can see how young people get involved in crime. Stealing stuff with no consequences must seem like an attractive option.

Technosaurus · 06/10/2022 19:03

I live up north with all its lovely cheap housing. And knife crime is out of control here too - a lad got stabbed to death outside school for making a drill video "dissing" someone!

I know poverty/lack of opportunity etc plays a part but I'm convinced there is a growing animalistic underclass who seem to think they're in a video game, nothing seems to have any consequences to these types.

Georgeskitchen · 06/10/2022 19:03

Grandeur · 06/10/2022 18:01

Of course this situation is awful and tragic, but this comment is a bit tone deaf. Do you not understand that many people can't just "get a job" and are forced to live in dire poverty, thus feeling the need to resort to desperate measures?

Can't get a job but can stab others for their phone. Let's hope you're never a victim!!

Technosaurus · 06/10/2022 19:05

(pressed send too soon)

We can blame the parents, blame the Tories, blame landlords, it doesn't actually matter - the fact is that the problem is right here right now and isn't going away any time soon. Someone in authority needs to grasp the nettle...

Grandeur · 06/10/2022 19:06

Georgeskitchen · 06/10/2022 19:03

Can't get a job but can stab others for their phone. Let's hope you're never a victim!!

@Georgeskitchen Lets also hope that you're never stuck in the cycle of poverty with no way out.

BluOcty · 06/10/2022 19:08

This happened just about a 2 min walk from the City of London police station!

OneWildNightWithJBJ · 06/10/2022 19:09

It’s awful, but certainly not surprising. There are stabbings every day now. They barely make the news. I have no idea what’s happened to this country in the last 20 years.

Wheredoestheblackfluffcomefrom · 06/10/2022 19:24

It’s probably a gang of them. Grabbing phones in the city is not a new thing.

I work by where it happened and on my walk to the station there were loads of people still walking around with phone in hand.

Hermione101 · 06/10/2022 19:41

What a ridiculous comment. These people are thugs and criminals, not people desperate for food. FFS.

girlfriend44 · 06/10/2022 20:43

NCandatingcrisps · 06/10/2022 18:42

This is true, but the cost of accommodation is astronomical and there is no social housing. The cost of a single room in a house share is anything from 7 to 9 hundred £ a month. There might well be no kitchen/ fridge/ cooking facilities, so buying fresh food and cooking it is not possible.
Jobs for people with no qualifications are plentiful, but are minimum wage.
I can see how young people get involved in crime. Stealing stuff with no consequences must seem like an attractive option.

What do they say if someone steals from them?
Do they say that's OK we do it to others?
Some people steal for a drug problem.
Because they make a bad choice everyone else has to suffer.

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nancy75 · 06/10/2022 20:55

Grandeur · 06/10/2022 18:01

Of course this situation is awful and tragic, but this comment is a bit tone deaf. Do you not understand that many people can't just "get a job" and are forced to live in dire poverty, thus feeling the need to resort to desperate measures?

My husband runs a pub about 10 minutes walk from where this happened, they, like every other pub in the area are desperate for staff. Since covid/Brexit their hourly wage has almost doubled (well above min wage.) I don’t think it’s ever been easier to get a job in London than it is now.

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