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Any Daily Mail journalist want to cover the brreaking Irish dancing cheating scandal unfolding tonight? Link to tonights Irish Independent article inside

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UKirishdancmum · 05/10/2022 23:01

m.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-dancing-rocked-by-major-allegations-of-competition-fixing-involving-dance-teachers-and-judges-42043659.html

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Lifelessordinary1 · 06/10/2022 10:27

Having said that many Irish Dance teachers moved away from this group and started their own due to the concern about the tans and fake wigs and the costs of dresses.

SleeplessInEngland · 06/10/2022 10:29

No-one gives a shit, op.

UKirishdancmum · 06/10/2022 10:55

@Lifelessordinary1 one of the most well know dresse makers is at the epicenter of this, however there are leaked texts to prove all the competition fixing

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Treblereelin · 06/10/2022 11:40

I was a competitive irish dancer for years and stopped recently. It’s always been blatantly obvious that there’s cheating and politics going on.

I’m not excusing the obvious cheating obviously, but it’s also a subjective sport which adds the element of judges opinion which makes it tricky. If you get a judge that likes big jumps, birdies and all the tricks then they will subconsciously mark down dancers with more technical steps rather than big fast jumps. Vice versa for judges who prefer traditional steps and mark down dancers with all the tricks and jumps. It’s swings and roundabouts and sometimes you’ll get a judge who prefers your style and it works in your favour and other times you’ll get a judge that doesn’t. You benefit sometimes and you lose sometimes. It’s just part of it being a subjective sport. Sometimes judges just don’t see things too- if they are watching another dancer for example. I got marked down by a judge who saw me fall out my rock in my reel on my right step. The other judges were watching another dancer at that time and only saw me nail my left step rock. So I didn’t get marked down by them. On paper it looked like the other judge tanked my score but they were the one who saw my (horrendous!) rock. For as long as dancers have to share the stage and judges attention, that kind of thing will happen.

the blatant cheating and favours is awful however. Unfortunately every sport is full of it though and Irish dancing isn’t unique for it. It’s shit and as a dancer it’s just the unspoken expectation that there will be

also, you’re posting in the wrong place. Nobody here will give a shit because it’s far too niche a sport so why would they. I don’t care about cheating at ice hockey competitions because I don’t care about ice hockey. Nobody is going to read this and suddenly take a massive interest in the political cheating at Irish dancing feises.

KingCharlespen · 06/10/2022 12:18

Treblereelin · 06/10/2022 11:40

I was a competitive irish dancer for years and stopped recently. It’s always been blatantly obvious that there’s cheating and politics going on.

I’m not excusing the obvious cheating obviously, but it’s also a subjective sport which adds the element of judges opinion which makes it tricky. If you get a judge that likes big jumps, birdies and all the tricks then they will subconsciously mark down dancers with more technical steps rather than big fast jumps. Vice versa for judges who prefer traditional steps and mark down dancers with all the tricks and jumps. It’s swings and roundabouts and sometimes you’ll get a judge who prefers your style and it works in your favour and other times you’ll get a judge that doesn’t. You benefit sometimes and you lose sometimes. It’s just part of it being a subjective sport. Sometimes judges just don’t see things too- if they are watching another dancer for example. I got marked down by a judge who saw me fall out my rock in my reel on my right step. The other judges were watching another dancer at that time and only saw me nail my left step rock. So I didn’t get marked down by them. On paper it looked like the other judge tanked my score but they were the one who saw my (horrendous!) rock. For as long as dancers have to share the stage and judges attention, that kind of thing will happen.

the blatant cheating and favours is awful however. Unfortunately every sport is full of it though and Irish dancing isn’t unique for it. It’s shit and as a dancer it’s just the unspoken expectation that there will be

also, you’re posting in the wrong place. Nobody here will give a shit because it’s far too niche a sport so why would they. I don’t care about cheating at ice hockey competitions because I don’t care about ice hockey. Nobody is going to read this and suddenly take a massive interest in the political cheating at Irish dancing feises.

So true, no-one really cares and sometimes you have to step outside that world to realise it. Perhaps a healthy bit of realism will do the parents and supporters no harm at all.

TheMoops · 06/10/2022 20:03

None of this is surprising though.
I've been involved in competitive Irish dancing for over 35 years and it has always been incredibly corrupt.

As the teacher and owner of a small school is like to think this will result in some changes but I'm not holding out any hope.

StormzyinaTCup · 07/10/2022 12:20

@UKirishdancmum - there is now an article in the Daily Mail if you want to have a read.

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