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Would you support a teaching strike?

264 replies

Strictly1 · 02/10/2022 18:00

Unions are currently talking to teachers regarding the proposed pay rise and government funding.
I do not want to strike but also know changes are needed for our children’s sake. With dwindling external support from agencies - schools are being expected to do more and more on limited resources that I predict will reduce due to squeezed budgets. The proposed pay rises are not funded. None of it is sustainable.

I honestly do not know what the realistic solution is.

YABU - you do not support teachers striking
YANBU - you do support teachers striking.

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Iamchurchill · 02/10/2022 19:52

100% Support.
the Tories seem hell bent on destroying the basic needs of the population - health, jobs, education.
by why they give a fuck, they have private healthcare, private schools and inherited wealth.
if we want good, great teachers, then they need more money and Bette reconditions.

DuchessOfDisco · 02/10/2022 19:52

I think the discussion of whether teachers are well paid or not is highly subjective. To someone on minimum wage (like teaching assistants!) teachers are incredibly well paid. To the pp’s middle manager friend on 120k in gambling then it’s a pathetic wage.
HOWEVER, I 100% support strikes because this pay rise should be FULLY FUNDED and not have to come out of existing budgets. Teachers are struggling because of the workload with ever decreasing resources and that is leading the crisis. Having to pay this out of already stretched budgets, especially when they are already having to cover the increased energy costs anyway, will only lead to massive cuts in both staff and resources which is only going to negatively impact the children - and that is all that matters. That our kids get the education they deserve.

anyone who does not support the strikes, does not support educating our children. End of.

noblegiraffe · 02/10/2022 19:53

Allmarbleslost · 02/10/2022 19:50

No. I'm support staff (office based) and I need a pay rise much more than any of the teachers.

Join a union, go on strike. There’s clearly support for it.

Solidarity with support staff colleagues.

Navigatingnewwaters · 02/10/2022 19:56

noblegiraffe · 02/10/2022 19:53

Join a union, go on strike. There’s clearly support for it.

Solidarity with support staff colleagues.

Is there a support staff union?

the80sweregreat · 02/10/2022 19:56

Yes, I support any strikers

redbigbananafeet · 02/10/2022 19:56

Tadpoll · 02/10/2022 18:39

Sorry, but nearly £40k for a primary school teacher is pretty bloody good.

Do you find this in line with other graduate professions near the ceiling of their pay scale?

noblegiraffe · 02/10/2022 19:57

Navigatingnewwaters · 02/10/2022 19:56

Is there a support staff union?

Unison, I think, is quite popular with school workers.

DuchessOfDisco · 02/10/2022 19:57

You have to remember, that strike or no strike, the teachers will still get the pay rise. The strike is for school budgets to be increased to pay for it, as opposed to it coming out of the school trips and equipment fund.

Piggywaspushed · 02/10/2022 19:58

Navigatingnewwaters · 02/10/2022 19:56

Is there a support staff union?

Yes!

UNISON is the main one.

Livelovebehappy · 02/10/2022 19:58

Very few people are getting pay rises this year, and many haven’t since before covid. I’m fed up of everyone currently jumping on the striking bandwagon.

DuchessOfDisco · 02/10/2022 19:59

Navigatingnewwaters · 02/10/2022 19:56

Is there a support staff union?

Unison just had a vote and the majority voted to accept the offer and not strike. But that covered all local government workers, which support staff as classed as.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 02/10/2022 19:59

Yes, given that this government can find magic money to help the rich get richer I think they should fund all public services and education properly.

Navigatingnewwaters · 02/10/2022 19:59

noblegiraffe · 02/10/2022 19:57

Unison, I think, is quite popular with school workers.

Thanks, I’ll have a look 👌

LibbyL92 · 02/10/2022 20:00

Yes. Fully in support of teachers strike.

sane with TAs.
loads of TAs I know are using food banks.

Wibbly1008 · 02/10/2022 20:01

Pay is low everywhere. Public sector has largely been on pay freeze for years, despite working through the pandemic. It’s a nightmare, country is going to be in worst trouble if everyone strikes, but I do understand how frustrating it must be.

Navigatingnewwaters · 02/10/2022 20:01

Teachers do work very hard and do deserve to be paid to reflect that too, I’d support a strike to get them a pay rise that didn’t take from the kids budget

LibbyL92 · 02/10/2022 20:02

I cannot believe the vote was accept the pay offer.

it’s awful!

redbigbananafeet · 02/10/2022 20:02

MeanderingGently · 02/10/2022 19:40

No. I'm not a believer in strikes in any profession. Nor do I think teachers' pay is particularly low.....try earning £14,000 pa in hospitality for very heavy, physical work; I'd call that low pay.

If they are contracted to a 35 hour week surely that's below minimum wage?

DuchessOfDisco · 02/10/2022 20:03

LibbyL92 · 02/10/2022 20:02

I cannot believe the vote was accept the pay offer.

it’s awful!

Yes terrible. There’s still 2 more unions awaiting results though. A lot of members are saying they didn’t get ballot papers though as they were emailed and went to junk

LibbyL92 · 02/10/2022 20:05

Yes! I never got the email. I got it eventually before the deadline.

it was such a high percentage as well. 63%
it’s an absolute insult. I really feel people may or been mislead.

Wehadabetamax · 02/10/2022 20:09

I am support staff in a secondary school and unions have also put this to the vote for support staff too. So it isn't just the teachers.

CreepyDibillo · 02/10/2022 20:12

I support all strikes in the public sector. I wouldn't have said that 5 years ago (role dependent) but we're in a very different world now.
Do it for us all and good luck💪

Wheresmymoneytree · 02/10/2022 20:15

redbigbananafeet · 02/10/2022 19:56

Do you find this in line with other graduate professions near the ceiling of their pay scale?

I teach secondary, when I work out my hours compared to my pay I get £11 an hour. I have relatives that are primary teachers, they put in more hours than I do. Just because the children are younger it doesn’t mean the job is easier.

I would like the payrise but the damage it’s doing to school is already visible, we usually find trips because it’s a deprived area, they’ve all been put on hold because that money will now pay staff. We’ve also agreed to do cover instead of getting supply to reduce the chance of redundancy.

Benjispruce4 · 02/10/2022 20:21

Teacher spay isn’t bad. £30-£45k. Support staff do loads and are paid in line with supermarket workers.

Gallo · 02/10/2022 20:21

Wakemeuuuup · 02/10/2022 19:14

I know that but the question was would I support a strike and the answer for, this year, is no.

My yr 13 child in particular has had so much disruption with gcses being teacher assessed etc that strikes during his a level year could have a huge impact on his grades and the university course he could get on

Why is 'teacher assessed' a disruption? Who do you think normally signs up and undertakes exam marking in their own time? Teachers who need the extra cash. That year they had to do it on top of teaching a full timetable for free! It doesn't disadvantage your child, but shows the dedication and professionalism. Of course these people deserve your support.