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Has anyone ever read Malory towers?

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Orangejelly1 · 02/10/2022 00:04

I used to love the books as a child! I read them cover to cover so many times and my favourite character was Darrell. I recently found my old collection and re read parts of them just for old times sake and I was actually really disappointed to see, as an adult, how awful some of the popular characters were. I know it was a product of its time and a different era, but Darrell, Alicia and some of the most popular girls would be called nasty bullies nowadays. I also felt so sorry for Gwen, which surprised me because as a child rearing the books she was my least favourite character.

just wondered if anyone else re read the books and thought this too!

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DorritLittle · 03/10/2022 14:11

Yes she does mention the Nazis in The Valley of Adventure. The couple don't know the war is over as I recall?!

Also is the the one where they are going off on some random bloke's plane for a few days, then get on the wrong plane by accident? 😁

DorritLittle · 03/10/2022 14:15

MargaretThursday · 03/10/2022 00:16

Daisy pulls it off isn't really a send up of Mallory towers. It's a parody of the typical girls' school stories of the 20s.

Typicalky the heroine is seen as a lower class than the others but is able to go to school through a scholarship or similar.
They are immediately top of the classroom, amazing at sports and loved by all... Except the dreadful snob and her friends.
Then normally it's discovered at the end that she actually does have money and is really of the "proper" class because of something really likely like having been stolen by gypsies or father lost his memory. And the snob invariably loses their money allowing the main character to show their class by being terribly gracious.

I've got a few of my grant's books from that era and they're all like that.

I have a load of schoolgirl books from the 20s too. And yes they are all like that!

What about the picture book mysteries set in boarding schools, anyone remember those? The ones with The Silent Three?

MurderAtTheBeautyPageant · 03/10/2022 14:17

@MarieIVanArkleStinks, I suddenly have a yearning to read the Rilloby Fair Mystery again. I remember being a Barney fan. He'd travel around with the circus and then rock up at whatever location the gang were at. Poor Barney, though now I think of it, his mother dead, his father gone, and he just bobs about from circus jobs to fairground jobs with his monkey Miranda Sad

Hobbesmanc · 03/10/2022 14:18

EB was so prolific - and certainly lots of elements of her work are dated - or even inappropriate. But the same is true of most authors of her era. But some of her best work can be magical for children- accessible , plot driven, free from adults.

I still love to reread the Secret Island. The willow house, the smuggled cow, the missing parents, the cruel guardians. Wonderful.

I'd also recommend The six cousins books. Maybe a little more grown up with more defined adult characters and a lovely understanding of nature.

Early Famous Fives are perfect (quality drops off radically in the later books) My favourite is Smugglers Top

DorritLittle · 03/10/2022 14:21

I loved the Rilloughby Fair set of books.

Anyone read Benji and The Others and Hollow Tree House? Those were early favourites of mine.

I agree Hobbes, Smugglers Top is one of the best FF.

Hobbesmanc · 03/10/2022 14:21

The School Friend was the comic- I had a mad obsession with collecting the annuals- the covers are really gorgeous. The Silent three solved numerous mysteries at their boarding school disguised with masks and cloaks. There were always impossibly glamourous stories set on Cruise Liners or Ski schools.

Gonnabegrandma · 03/10/2022 14:23

My favourite books growing up along with st claire’s . I used to dream of going to boarding school ….. well until my parents said I could go !!! A works of escape and innocence

DorritLittle · 03/10/2022 14:24

Hobbesmanc · 03/10/2022 14:21

The School Friend was the comic- I had a mad obsession with collecting the annuals- the covers are really gorgeous. The Silent three solved numerous mysteries at their boarding school disguised with masks and cloaks. There were always impossibly glamourous stories set on Cruise Liners or Ski schools.

Yes, glamorous mysteries in ski schools! Amazing. I think we have some annuals in my mum's loft too. She also has quite a few of the comics still. Loved them!

seetzeros · 03/10/2022 14:30

I loved EB and especially Malory towers. I was always of the opinion that the context explained everything and I would read and explain to any kids I had. I have indeed read several EB books to my son and I’ve been alarmed at the racism and misogyny. It’s more than I can explain. If you haven’t read a 70s version recently you will think me mad but I actually attributed more lines to Anne and George in the famous five, missed out some racist/classist descriptions in the ‘Adventure’ series and had to have a discussion about why the main characters name was racist in the Wishing chair as it is so bad. We renamed him for the purpose of the story.

Phos · 03/10/2022 14:33

seetzeros · 03/10/2022 14:30

I loved EB and especially Malory towers. I was always of the opinion that the context explained everything and I would read and explain to any kids I had. I have indeed read several EB books to my son and I’ve been alarmed at the racism and misogyny. It’s more than I can explain. If you haven’t read a 70s version recently you will think me mad but I actually attributed more lines to Anne and George in the famous five, missed out some racist/classist descriptions in the ‘Adventure’ series and had to have a discussion about why the main characters name was racist in the Wishing chair as it is so bad. We renamed him for the purpose of the story.

I'm lost. I thought the main character in the Wishing Chair was called Peter?

ReneBumsWombats · 03/10/2022 14:37

I'm lost. I thought the main character in the Wishing Chair was called Peter?

There was a sprite/fairy character whose current incarnation is Binky...

To be fair, I'm not sure if the original name had the same meaning but it's good it's been updated. The youngest Faraway Tree sibling is now Franny and their cousin is Rick.

Flapjacker48 · 03/10/2022 14:44

@MurderAtTheBeautyPageant "R" mysteries up to Rubadub are good - tails off a bit for the last two I always thought.

Interesting in the photo annual book about her life ("the story of my life") that EB released in 1952 there is a complete list of her work to date and the Barney mysteries are the only books she thinks are more for older children/teenagers.

Another interesting (!) fact is that "Rilloby Fair Mystery" is one of the earliest examples of changes to a a EB books in later editions - the Lynton's cat's name was changed to Sardine from Snoek after the first edition as the memory of Snoek (A fish that was eaten in WW2 years was fading)

seetzeros · 03/10/2022 14:44

The sprite/fairy retained the original name in the copy I bought in 2020. I was surprised as in the boxed set, all the Faraway character names that were ‘controversial’ had changed.

Flapjacker48 · 03/10/2022 14:47

@MarieIVanArkleStinks "Rilloby" is indeed a good EB - particularly exciting when the police come to the fair and it descends into a near riot. But yes lots of humour when there the chase through the grounds of the stately home where the old papers are kept.

ReneBumsWombats · 03/10/2022 14:48

The sprite/fairy retained the original name in the copy I bought in 2020.

That's very surprising...

I don't think it had the racist meaning when Blyton wrote it (happy to be corrected) but I wouldn't have thought it was acceptable now, especially as Fanny and Dick have changed.

Whose bright idea was it to "update" the Famous Five by having them wear jeans and say, "You bet!"

nlr1 · 03/10/2022 14:52

My DD and I have been watching the cbbc series of it, she’s gotten really into it so I ordered the books for her the other day. I didn’t read them as a child which surprises me now because it’s exactly the sort of thing I’d have loved at her age

TheLoupGarou · 03/10/2022 14:56

I never read Mallory Towers, which is surprising because I loved the Famous Five and St Clare's books. My kids liked the magic faraway tree series when they were younger, the renaming of Fanny and Dick did make me chuckle, but I was glad to be reading "Franny and Rick" instead 🤣

MurderAtTheBeautyPageant · 03/10/2022 15:01

the Lynton's cat's name was changed to Sardine from Snoek after the first edition as the memory of Snoek (A fish that was eaten in WW2 years was fading)

That is interesting. I don't think I've ever come across the word 'snoek' before. I know bloaters feature in Victorian books but snoek is new to me. It must have tasted awful if people stopped eating it as soon as tastier fish became available.

fairycakes1234 · 03/10/2022 15:07

one thing that stuck with me as a child was some teacher was ridiculing one of the characters so she got a poem from some poetry book and pretended it was her own and of course the teacher scoffed at it and didn't recognize the famous poet (so famous i cant remember who it was) and the teacher was left degraded and humiliated and i actually even remember as a kid feeling that was a pretty nasty thing to do to the teacher!

ReneBumsWombats · 03/10/2022 15:10

one thing that stuck with me as a child was some teacher was ridiculing one of the characters so she got a poem from some poetry book and pretended it was her own and of course the teacher scoffed at it and didn't recognize the famous poet (so famous i cant remember who it was) and the teacher was left degraded and humiliated and i actually even remember as a kid feeling that was a pretty nasty thing to do to the teacher!

Anne-Marie with Miss Willcox in St Clare's. Poem was Despondency by Matthew Arnold. And Miss Willcox deserved it! She was totally unprofessional and overtly bullied Anne-Marie in front of the whole class, more than once, largely because she was pissed off that her second book of poems got rejected.

Flossyhair · 03/10/2022 15:15

I have this on Audible and love it. It is so outdated and old fashioned but I do like listening to it in the car, it reminds me of when I was little and loved reading that series.

The audio book is very well done I think.

KimberleyClark · 03/10/2022 15:21

ReneBumsWombats · 03/10/2022 15:10

one thing that stuck with me as a child was some teacher was ridiculing one of the characters so she got a poem from some poetry book and pretended it was her own and of course the teacher scoffed at it and didn't recognize the famous poet (so famous i cant remember who it was) and the teacher was left degraded and humiliated and i actually even remember as a kid feeling that was a pretty nasty thing to do to the teacher!

Anne-Marie with Miss Willcox in St Clare's. Poem was Despondency by Matthew Arnold. And Miss Willcox deserved it! She was totally unprofessional and overtly bullied Anne-Marie in front of the whole class, more than once, largely because she was pissed off that her second book of poems got rejected.

I seem to remember that both Alison and Anne Marie had a crush on Miss Wilcox to start with and imitated her style of dress and mannerisms. Then Anne Marie started to suspect she was a fake…..

Phos · 03/10/2022 15:25

ReneBumsWombats · 03/10/2022 14:37

I'm lost. I thought the main character in the Wishing Chair was called Peter?

There was a sprite/fairy character whose current incarnation is Binky...

To be fair, I'm not sure if the original name had the same meaning but it's good it's been updated. The youngest Faraway Tree sibling is now Franny and their cousin is Rick.

Oh I forgot about the sprite. Was it Winks? I didn’t know that was offensive.

HellaFitzgerald · 03/10/2022 15:29

Phos · 03/10/2022 15:25

Oh I forgot about the sprite. Was it Winks? I didn’t know that was offensive.

It rhymes with Winky except with no W and starts with "Ch" instead.

ReneBumsWombats · 03/10/2022 15:29

Not Winky. Began with "ch".

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