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To have watched the Kardashians tonight

46 replies

matisseshand · 30/09/2022 23:57

Well I know IWBU to watch it but I’ve had a stressful week at work and needed something that didn’t require too much thought.

anyway, here’s my AIBU. I watched the episode tonight where Khloe has a baby via a surrogate and it made me so uncomfortable. She’s lying in the hospital bed like she’s given birth, the birth mother cleared out the picture and just the sheer amount of money that has likely changed hands because she wanted a baby with her ex.

AIBU to think it feels exploitative?

OP posts:
Musti · 11/10/2022 20:16

Wow just googled. The stupid bitch has a surrogate because she wants to stay in shape. Should definitely not be allowed that.

VladmirsPoutine · 11/10/2022 20:17

AIBU to think it feels exploitative?

How do you think the Kardashians built their brand? Confused

Menora · 11/10/2022 20:21

I don’t think Khloe has disclosed a medical issue, she was having a baby with a man she was trying to be in a relationship with (but he can’t stop cheating). She has never been so slim and I also don’t think she wanted to give up her figure or go through the press torment all over again, they were really hard on her for gaining weight last time

Letsdorevenge · 11/10/2022 20:21

What's the opinion on Israel?

Bettyboop3 · 12/10/2022 07:35

Ginger1982 · 11/10/2022 20:08

@Bettyboop3 she didn't 'need' another child though. She already had one.

Nobody 'needs' a child.

Bettyboop3 · 12/10/2022 07:36

Musti · 11/10/2022 20:16

Wow just googled. The stupid bitch has a surrogate because she wants to stay in shape. Should definitely not be allowed that.

Wow with the name calling of a person you have presumably never met and don't know. Way to judge!!

QueSyrahSyrah · 12/10/2022 07:48

I'll admit, I've watched it. I don't actually mind the Kardashians in general, I enjoy the show and they've certainly done well for themselves, but I can't summon an iota of sympathy for Khloe.

I can't understand how she can be shocked that the Man who has gone to great efforts time and again to prove himself a snake and a waste of oxygen, has turned out to be snake and a waste of oxygen.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice annually, shame on me.

MissingNashville · 12/10/2022 07:49

youagainomg · 01/10/2022 00:02

She didn't kick the birth mother out of her birthing room. Khloe had another room where she took her son to bond!

Took him to another room to stop the bond he already have with the mother that gave birth to him more like. Poor baby. Created with the intention of taking him away from his mother at birth and his dad is a lying, cheating piece of shit.

Still, they’re rich so can buy him some designer clothes, that’ll make everything ok. 😔 Oh and she’s posing for photos online with her stomach out. She got her figure back fast....oh no, wait.

Just disgusting. Renting wombs, buying babies, exploiting women, the other repulsive one did it too. Surrogacy should be banned.

Bettyboop3 · 12/10/2022 07:55

MissingNashville · 12/10/2022 07:49

Took him to another room to stop the bond he already have with the mother that gave birth to him more like. Poor baby. Created with the intention of taking him away from his mother at birth and his dad is a lying, cheating piece of shit.

Still, they’re rich so can buy him some designer clothes, that’ll make everything ok. 😔 Oh and she’s posing for photos online with her stomach out. She got her figure back fast....oh no, wait.

Just disgusting. Renting wombs, buying babies, exploiting women, the other repulsive one did it too. Surrogacy should be banned.

So gay couples and all women who can't carry a pregnancy should be banned frim using a surrogate or just people who happen to be rich and famous?

MissingNashville · 12/10/2022 08:06

Bettyboop3 · 11/10/2022 20:02

Someone else chatting shit. plesse don't comment on somebody's life after watching 1 episode or reading a headline. Khloe had valid medical reasons for going through ivf & being unable to carry her own child.

Lol. There no valid medical reason to make you rent another woman’s body and buy a baby. No one is entitled to a baby. It’s very sad for anyone that wants children and can’t have them but this really shouldn’t be the answer.

MissingNashville · 12/10/2022 08:08

Bettyboop3 · 12/10/2022 07:55

So gay couples and all women who can't carry a pregnancy should be banned frim using a surrogate or just people who happen to be rich and famous?

No one should be able to ‘use’ a surrogate. Commissioning babies and renting wombs, exploring women, it’s a horrible thing. The child is not centred, it’s all about what the adults want.

MissingNashville · 12/10/2022 08:10

*exploiting

Crotonifolia · 12/10/2022 08:14

It was really jarring to see. She was, very obviously, detached from this unborn baby. Then as soon as he was born was cuddling him in the hospital bed, like the surrogate was a disposable part of childbirth. Very odd. Dystopia is the right word for it.

I'm anti surrogacy anyway, but especially in situations like this. Rich people paying poorer people to act as incubators is horribly exploitative.

VladmirsPoutine · 12/10/2022 19:39

@MissingNashville So what do you propose homosexual couples do?

MissingNashville · 12/10/2022 19:58

VladmirsPoutine · 12/10/2022 19:39

@MissingNashville So what do you propose homosexual couples do?

Accept that they’re not entitled to a baby, no one is. No female reproductive organs between them should mean no biological child. Decent humans wouldn’t think it’s ok to commission babies and exploit women. The entitled humans like Khloe think it’s ok.

Bettyboop3 · 12/10/2022 19:59

VladmirsPoutine · 12/10/2022 19:39

@MissingNashville So what do you propose homosexual couples do?

She clearly thinks they should not be allowed to have children. If women are happy to be surrogates who is she to say they shouldn't be?!

QueSyrahSyrah · 12/10/2022 20:03

@Bettyboop3 There's a lot of stuff I 'wouldn't do' that I might just change my mind about for $50k / $100k / $150k if my kids were going hungry, I was in immense debt or homeless.

Personally I think covering expenses for someone who genuinely wants to help you have a baby is one thing. Actually paying some random person a stack of cash to rent their womb is another.

VladmirsPoutine · 12/10/2022 20:04

MissingNashville · 12/10/2022 19:58

Accept that they’re not entitled to a baby, no one is. No female reproductive organs between them should mean no biological child. Decent humans wouldn’t think it’s ok to commission babies and exploit women. The entitled humans like Khloe think it’s ok.

Then it's a fantastic thing that you aren't Director of The Women's Wombs Institute.

MissingNashville · 12/10/2022 20:07

Bettyboop3 · 12/10/2022 19:59

She clearly thinks they should not be allowed to have children. If women are happy to be surrogates who is she to say they shouldn't be?!

Happy to be surrogates? Or do it for the money that a rich family like the Kardashians can provide? Desperate possibly. Funny that there’s never any tales of rich women having babies for poor women that can’t have them. Of course not, because why would a rich person take the risks physically and emotionally.

And you don’t even mention the child’s rights in all this, just what the adults want. It’s horrible.

MissingNashville · 12/10/2022 20:11

VladmirsPoutine · 12/10/2022 20:04

Then it's a fantastic thing that you aren't Director of The Women's Wombs Institute.

Hopefully at some point in the future, all countries will ban it like some already have. Too much money to be made by agencies though, women aren’t important enough and children get no say. What a world!

Bettyboop3 · 12/10/2022 20:54

So you would like to take more options away from women. Who made you God? 🤔

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