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Splitting the mental load

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Changeableweather · 30/09/2022 21:18

How is the mental load split in your house, and how do you work out if it's "fair"?? Can it ever be fair, and does it really matter as long as it's fairly close?

I work full time from home, and my husband teaches part time and looks after our two kids (under 3) the rest of the time. Because he spends pretty much 100% of business hours around children, I do all the life admin that requires the phone or the internet. Bills, banking, appointments, bookings for things, etc etc etc.

Because he's in the house more (don't really count my home office as the house, as if I step foot out of the door I'm accosted by tiny terrors!) he does all of what he calls the "physical mental load". He does the meal planning, the keeping on top of whether we need loo roll or toilet paper or rice or coffee, it's him who keeps track of what size feet the kids have and whether they need to go up a size of clothing, and he does most of the planning of fun days out.

Housework and childcare, outside my 9-5 it's a relatively even split. I do more night wakes because I'm breastfeeding, he does more cooking because he loves it, but we tend to end up pretty level if you look at it over a week.

Generally speaking this works really well, but every now and then I'm on the phone with British Gas or I'm working out how much we have spare in the bank and I feel lightly resentful that all the stressful stuff is on me. And I know sometimes he gets irritated that he's the one keeping track of toddler socks and laundry liquid and all the mundane endless relentless shit that comes with being an adult. It feels like each of us having our zones of responsibility is a really efficient way to run things, but at the same time it doesn't always feel fair.

How does everyone else split it? Mix the jobs up or divide them in half? I think maybe we're just exhausted and it's making us aggy. I don't know.

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Lunar270 · 30/09/2022 23:16

bluefrog11 · 30/09/2022 22:57

Whole mental load (2 primary age DC) is on me. Luckily I don’t work so I grudgingly accept this (he runs a business so there is a big “work” load on him) - still fucks me off though.

Our marriage is up & down and this is one of the big reasons why.

Not having a go but do you know what he does to keep the business ticking over? Does he do all the books, manage staff, clients etc?

I do all that, manage the home, admin and find time for the family and it's hard work. However, it depends on how demanding the business is. My wife also works, hence a more equal split but if you're not working then the division would naturally be different surely?

If you worked, would he share more of the load of your kids?

JonahAndTheSnail · 30/09/2022 23:37

I do all the cleaning and household admin except calling tradespeople as I've had previous bad experiences with that. I research names and numbers and leave it to DH to arrange appointments and choose who to go with. On the other hand, DH runs our business and deals with all the stress of payroll, HMRC etc. I sometimes feel annoyed that we have quite stereotypical male and female 'roles' in the relationship. But in the end, adulting is a never ending to do list and lots of it is unappealing, just for different reasons and the grass is rarely greener.

T42and24T · 01/10/2022 00:11

Wow. I work part time, am a sahm to 2 dc, one with sen. And I do ALL of the’mental load’ jobs. My (stbx) oh works ft, 3 days at home, 2 in the office. He does none of the jobs you list. I literally do it all. Up till a year or so ago, I thought this was how things just were meant to be :(

Now, I’m hoping that when I’m living alone with the kids then yes, I’ll have to do 100% of the mental load coz it’ll just be me. But it will, somehow, be so much easier.

Well, I hope it will be…

Butterflymosaic · 01/10/2022 00:17

As a single mum with no family to help with childcare, I just wanted to pop in and remind you that some of us have no choice but to do it all, always 🤷🏻‍♀️ Drudgery it seems at times. Your set up sounds fair to me. Hope you have a chat and resolve things soon.

Butterflymosaic · 01/10/2022 00:20

Oh, and I work FT too.

MangyInseam · 01/10/2022 00:57

Our division is probably closer to the opposite of yours. TBH in a lot of ways I get the better end of it, for sure.

What it comes down to is that I really struggle with that admin kind of stuff. I am bad at it and when I lived alone I was bad at it. And dh is good at it.

I would say though that while it's possible to split things a lot of different ways, each person really does need their own area of responsibility, or it just doesn't work. Years ago dh and I used to switch back and forth, because his job basically necessitated it, and it actually adds an additional administrative burden to do that. You have to be able to really let the other person organize things the way they want to for the most part too.

I've seen couples try and do it in an ad hoc way as well and that seems to end up with one person doing a lot more and feeling resentful. Possibly the person who is more picky or sometimes the more dominant personality.

I think the secret in a case like yours OP is to be open to renegotiating things as time goes on. As the kids get older and other things change there will be more opportunities to arrange things other ways, and sometimes a change is as good as a rest, as they say.

SarahDippity · 01/10/2022 01:07

The years when kids are tiny are the hardest for things like shoe shopping. But honestly, there are different stages of ‘hard.’ In five years, you’ll be spending your free time bringing them to school, activities, sports clubs, AND buying shoes, football boots, gum shields, AND sorting costumes for book day or Halloween, and you’ll still have grocery shopping and utilities to sort out. Look at your free time as x hours total per week, and you can find the time to share out bathtime, bedtime, and mental load chores. Sorry if this sounds patronising but you just have to be smart with your time, plan a weekly shop, plan once a month to do shoe buying or whatever, plan family relaxing time, and just get through it.

Namenic · 01/10/2022 01:21

Sounds pretty fair. We do a random mix - basically stuff each of us care more about or whose provider we used when we got together.

So he does stuff with bills, bank except car (he didn’t drive when we got together); food shop (because he cares about varied menu and gets annoyed with me for over-buying special offer stuff); dentist (because we use his dentist), kids swimming (online admin - because he figured out how to sign in), tidying, sorting post and correspondence, computer stuff (he knows more).

I do kids clothes, taking them to activities (including swimming), car stuff, doctor, cooking, planning days out, entertaining kids, laundry, washing up, night wakings (as he finds it hard to get up and I breastfeed).

I get exhausted with all the physical kids stuff. But - I am terrible at all the paperwork-type things and am glad he does it.

Saracen · 01/10/2022 02:32

Your arrangement seems sensible for now. In the much longer run, be sure to swap things around a bit even if it is less efficient. It's almost inevitable that one day at least one of you will have to deal with things which haven't been their main area of expertise, whether because the two of you have split up or one of you dies. When that day comes, rising to the challenge will be really tough regardless, but it will be far harder if you have left some tasks 100% to one partner and the other is absolutely clueless.

So I pester my DH to learn to use online banking and keep quizzing him to ensure he remembers which accounts we have and what life insurance is in place, though he really doesn't want to know. Meanwhile I try to at least watch and ask about how to use the snake to unblock the pipes, how to humanely kill a chicken after the fox has left it half-dead, and how often to clean the gutters. I don't really want to learn any of those skills, but one day I may need the information in a hurry and I may not have my DH to ask. Being unable to cope with this stuff would make my grief even worse, I think.

BasicDad · 01/10/2022 03:09

I do much more in our household. I do as much as I'm physically able to do, even if it's not an even split, and I never resent it. I also have a child from previous relationship that lives with us.

My partner isn't lazy. She does get involved, and we both appreciate everything we do for each other, and have an attitude of trying to do as much for each other as possible. When one of us is knackered or really stretched for time, and things get a bit behind or missed, we don't get on at each other, we just help each other out and work as a team.

This sets a really nice tone in the home.

Walkaround · 01/10/2022 03:44

Well, you could always try swapping roles and thus rapidly each learn to have a greater respect for what the other one does. Somehow I seem to have ended up being the one who does the lion’s share of both yours and his role, so know well the pressures on both sides. I think you are being up yourself in terms of deciding what’s stressful and important and are totally taking for granted how much less stressful your life is made by the work your dh is doing (and vice versa, of course). You clearly have no idea how bloody annoying, chaotic and stressful your life and the lives of your children would be if your dh was not fulfilling his share of the work adequately - and how that would also make your role massively more stressful, as it would be infinitely harder for you to work out how to budget for and deal with household chaos than it is to work out how to finance a well run household.

Stayingstrongish · 01/10/2022 09:00

T42and24T · 01/10/2022 00:11

Wow. I work part time, am a sahm to 2 dc, one with sen. And I do ALL of the’mental load’ jobs. My (stbx) oh works ft, 3 days at home, 2 in the office. He does none of the jobs you list. I literally do it all. Up till a year or so ago, I thought this was how things just were meant to be :(

Now, I’m hoping that when I’m living alone with the kids then yes, I’ll have to do 100% of the mental load coz it’ll just be me. But it will, somehow, be so much easier.

Well, I hope it will be…

I think you will find it easier.

When my ex left I was blown away at how much less housework there suddenly was. Less washing to do (he never did his), less to put in the dishwasher (he rarely did that), less tidying up of all the things he would randomly leave around the house for the magic fairies to put away.

On the other hand things are financially tighter.

I work full time with two young kids, so do all the house work and financial admin. I do think worrying about money is a particular burden so can understand how that weighs heavily compared to other tasks. But the repetitive never ending housework tasks that come with young kids can be very tiring too.

Stayingstrongish · 01/10/2022 09:04

Stayingstrongish · 01/10/2022 09:00

I think you will find it easier.

When my ex left I was blown away at how much less housework there suddenly was. Less washing to do (he never did his), less to put in the dishwasher (he rarely did that), less tidying up of all the things he would randomly leave around the house for the magic fairies to put away.

On the other hand things are financially tighter.

I work full time with two young kids, so do all the house work and financial admin. I do think worrying about money is a particular burden so can understand how that weighs heavily compared to other tasks. But the repetitive never ending housework tasks that come with young kids can be very tiring too.

@T42and24T sorry my post above was for you but forgot to tag you in. You’ve got this x

Changeableweather · 18/10/2022 09:10

In case anyone wants an update...

Sat down with DH and had a chat about how I felt we were both getting a bit frustrated about our particular parts of the mental load. Agreed that both bits sucked in different ways, sympathised, bitched about life, and then decided to instigate a "boring date night" once a week, where we have a martini, do a meal plan and a shopping list and go through the bills/budget/appointments/shit together. We've had a couple so far, and it's been nice. Adulting is still exhausting and irritating but there's less resentment.

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