To point out that the word "mansplaining" is sexist?

[gordonsbennnet]

Just that really. It may be funny here on Mumsnet, but if you use the term in a professional environment you should expect to be called out for it. Anyone offended by it would be justified in raising it with their HR department.

Quite.

He might be able to explain that he's a patronising git towards men who are more knowledgeable than himself as well so he's not being sexist when he does it to women?

Are you a man by any chance OP?

'Mansplaining' is the term for a sexist pattern of behaviour.

That's the excuse used for calling people Karen. In my experience both are more often used as lazy put-downs.

nope.
I have literally had men telling me - fluffy airheaded girl that i am - how to fire a pistol. Literaly tell me how to hold it, how to aim, how to breathe the whole fucking works. SECONDS after i have told them that i used to be in the army, the 9mm Browning was my secondary weapon and that i won medals in the shooting team firing exactly that thing. And on further questioning, found out they had never ever even held one.
That is mansplaining. Assuming they, the man, know more than me, the lowly woman, about a thing i am already more expert in than he is. Or will possibly hope to be.

Karen is an ageist misogynistic term, often flung at any woman who dares to have boundaries.

I think it depends if the term is being used as it is meant.

if a man who is not a scientist explains an experiment to a woman who IS a scientist then he is mansplaining and would have no grounds to complain because he is clearly being sexist towards her by suggesting she doesn’t know her own field.

however if a male gynaecologist makes a diagnosis and a female who is not a gynaecologist disagrees and dismisses his opinion simply because he is a man and doesn’t own a uterus ( or breasts as can be seen in that other thread) then the mansplaining term is being used incorrectly and he would be right to complain of discrimination.

I think you've missed the point here...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Won’t somebody think of the men?!!! 😱

Have you got a bit muddled @gordonsbennnet?

I assume this is a TAAT related to the 'mansplaining' consultant breast lump guy. If so, plenty of people on that thread have argued with the OP about the application of the term mansplaining in that context. It doesn't mean that mansplaining doesn't exist or that it doesn't happen in the workplace, just that they don't feel the OP was justified in using it for that particular circumstance. To move from there to say that the word is sexist is a big leap (which you have made), and not a very logically coherent one.

Yes it is about that, whilst he might not have been "mansplaining" he certainly didn't take the op seriously and dismissed her worries blaming it on a bra, of which I presume he has never worn so maybe there is a little bit of mansplaining there🤷🏽‍♀️

Is a woman's refusal to be fondled by her male boss, evidence of sexism by her ?

Does it matter? It's mumsnet, men are simply in the wrong anyway.

What's the female equivalent of mansplaining? I've been 'mansplained' on a number of occasions by female colleagues. If it's deliberate then it's rude if not it's simply annoying.

Women cannot 'mansplain'.

So what's the equivalent term 'downright rude'?

Patronised? Interesting etymology there, too, as it happens. It’s almost as though condescension has an aggregate reputation for maleness. Can’t think why,

I don't think you quite understand "mansplaining" 🤣

Does it matter? It's mumsnet, men are simply in the wrong anyway.

oh GOD. always this. It isn't true and it's like those other people who constantly post "xx is hated on mn so wah wah wah" with zero evidence of it.
there are plenty of posts on here about useless good-for-nothing men who frankly don't deserve the steam off anyone's piss and think women are here to serve them.

What's the female equivalent of mansplaining? I've been 'mansplained' on a number of occasions by female colleagues. If it's deliberate then it's rude if not it's simply annoying.

Again, if you don't understand the term "mansplaining" then you only have to ask. It is specifically about men thinking they are god's gift and the fount of all knowledge explaining to women who are more expert than them on that topic things about that topic. Often incorrectly. It is about societal power dynamics and the patriarchy.

Some people, of either sex, are just rude patronising gits to other people regardless of their sex.
If a particular woman does this to one sex a lot more than the other then she'd be being sexist. However, there doesn't seem to be widespread observation of this happening in practice.

Stupid word anyway. The word is "patronising"

Patronize comes from Latin patronus "protector, master," related to pater "father." So if you patronize a person, you talk down to them like a father might do to his child or a master to his apprentice.

Mansplaining, like so many other jargon words - is SO MUCH MORE than patronising though. So much more.

Some posters here might like to learn what it actually means.

Well I wouldn't use it in a professional environment as I don't want to sound linguistically ill-informed nor pathetic.

I'm not saying whether or not that particular behaviour was mansplaining (because I'm ambivalent, not because I'm refusing to say), but more that it doesn't make the whole concept of mansplaining redundant or sexist because one woman used it in a controversial way. Argue whether or not that behaviour constituted mansplaining, as people on that thread are doing, but not that people couldn't possibly mansplain at work because they're just doing their job, as this OP seems to think.

Anyone offended by it would be justified in raising it with their HR department.

On what grounds?

I know what's supposed to mean, it's a puerile amalgamation of the words man, and explain.

Patronising is the existing word to convey the very same meaning without the implicit self-inflicted victimhood women are encouraged to bestow upon themselves.