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To share this visual representation of the figures we are talking about with Liz and Kwasi's 'mini' budget

56 replies

GreenLunchBox · 30/09/2022 10:49

I think we've become desensitised to the thought of a billion pounds because since covid these sorts of numbers have been thrown around with ease. Sunak wrote off £4.3 billion of our money that he handed to covid loan fraudsters, for example, and we just shrugged.

Very important graphic here by Led By Donkeys:
kamikwasi.tax/

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10in10 · 30/09/2022 14:16

Does the mini budget get debated or voted on in the House of Commons?

melafixer · 30/09/2022 14:37

F

StillNotWarm · 30/09/2022 14:45

Shared.
That's awesome.

ThreeFeetTall · 30/09/2022 14:51

10in10 · 30/09/2022 14:16

Does the mini budget get debated or voted on in the House of Commons?

Only a normal budget. The word 'mini' seems to have got them out of this somehow??

Mumoblue · 30/09/2022 15:04

This is horrific, how anyone can defend this utter clown show of a government is beyond me.

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/09/2022 15:33

Shortjanet · 30/09/2022 13:45

Hear hear - let's all be bankers! I'm sure we'll be fine if we all stop doing all the other unnecessary, poorly paid work instead. It's so obvious really.

PM Truss has a solution. She is raising the numbers of immigrants to the UK and relaxing the criteria, such as speaking English. She's removing the 40,000 cap on seasonal workers and extending the length of time they can stay.

Next week's conference will be interesting.

AnonWeeMouse · 30/09/2022 15:41

And people will still benefit bash because Ma Larkin got £12.50 last month to feed her 3 kids for a month.

GreenLunchBox · 30/09/2022 18:57

sst1234 · 30/09/2022 13:51

Not hard to pick out how disingenuous this information. Of £45b tax cuts, the website says, £1b in going to the highest earners. So the test fi going to lower earner. What’s wrong with that.

Not agreeing with a policy is one thing. No need to make stuff up about the Rich getting the majority of the benefit.

😂

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GreenLunchBox · 30/09/2022 18:58

No prizes for guessing who voted me unreasonable 🤣

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Happygirl79 · 30/09/2022 19:04

In my opinion this is a bribe to keep the Conservative party donors sweet .
And all tory ministers will need a job after they get caned at the next election. Cash for favours anyone?

1245J · 30/09/2022 19:13

I was at an event today where a majority were clearly Conservative party members from the rural South. They are furious and want the cuts reversed and Truss and Kwarteng out ASAP. The general consensus is the longer they stay the more irreversible damage to the UK. Vote of no confidence in 10 months.

weegiemum · 30/09/2022 20:32

Such a powerful way of showing the situation. Have shared, including to my young adult kids. Led By Donkeys are so creative in the way they do things, I think that really helps with engaging younger people.

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 30/09/2022 20:32

Interested that the site says only £1bn is the cut of 45% to 40%

The treasury said it was £2bn and the IFS said £6bn.

But even if you don't focus on the 45% rate cut, only 56% of people even pay income tax.

It's still a huge cost to rack up when it doesn't help the worst off 20% of the country at all. In a cost of living crisis.

It's disgusting.

At least people are seeing this, and planning to vote against the Tories. I was loving the 33% labour poll lead. 😀

Norugratsatall · 30/09/2022 20:40

The scale of the horror is stark when it's represented pictorially like that. Why are these idiots still in power? How are they getting away with it? Why aren't the backbenches revolting?

I remember threads on here when Truss first became PM. Many people said 'we're fucked'. They didn't have long to wait to be proved right did they! The whole thing seems surreal...

Pilipalapal · 30/09/2022 20:43

If this was any other country, where a new government having support of only ~20% of the electorate, there would be protests and civil unrest.

Unfortunately the ‘stiff upper lip’ attitude runs deep.

itsgettingweird · 30/09/2022 20:57

Fuck me.

That's stark Sad

Celticandco · 30/09/2022 21:59

Why aren't there huge marches like the anti Brexit ones being organised? I saw the link to a few tomorrow but there's a massive train strike on so they will have limited attendance sadly

Shortjanet · 30/09/2022 22:12

Celticandco · 30/09/2022 21:59

Why aren't there huge marches like the anti Brexit ones being organised? I saw the link to a few tomorrow but there's a massive train strike on so they will have limited attendance sadly

Please try to make it though if you can. We have to make our voices heard or things will just get worse and worse.

LittlePickleHead · 01/10/2022 07:10

1245J · 30/09/2022 19:13

I was at an event today where a majority were clearly Conservative party members from the rural South. They are furious and want the cuts reversed and Truss and Kwarteng out ASAP. The general consensus is the longer they stay the more irreversible damage to the UK. Vote of no confidence in 10 months.

The same Tory party members who voted in this shit show a mere few weeks ago?

FFS take some accountability you fucking wankers. All fine and dandy when it's someone else being screwed over right?

Butterlover1 · 01/10/2022 07:21

Hopefully this link works

Sky news interview with someone from Westminster trying to justify tax cuts for the wealthy is absolutely galling

FatOaf · 01/10/2022 07:27

You are unreasonable to refer to "Liz" and "Kwasi". They are not your friends (unless you are a very rich Party donor). Trussolini and Kamikwasi might be acceptable, but why not just refer to them as Truss and Kwarteng?

Luxurysleuth007 · 01/10/2022 07:29

It’s a big club and you ain’t in it.

An American centric classic video but you get the gist. They’ve fucked us all.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 01/10/2022 07:41

AnonWeeMouse · 30/09/2022 15:41

And people will still benefit bash because Ma Larkin got £12.50 last month to feed her 3 kids for a month.

How very dare she, that's £12.50 checks notes of my hard earned taxes, the country can't support such fecklessness

Incrediblebuttrue · 01/10/2022 07:57

Not hard to pick out how disingenuous this information. Of £45b tax cuts, the website says, £1b in going to the highest earners. So the rest is going to lower earner. What’s wrong with that.

There are far, far more lower earners so what they actually get is very little - and for many of the very lowest earners that money will be less than the increase in cost of living so they will be poorer. What's right with that?

TeaKlaxon · 01/10/2022 08:14

sst1234 · 30/09/2022 13:51

Not hard to pick out how disingenuous this information. Of £45b tax cuts, the website says, £1b in going to the highest earners. So the test fi going to lower earner. What’s wrong with that.

Not agreeing with a policy is one thing. No need to make stuff up about the Rich getting the majority of the benefit.

No doubt this is a troll post but just in case others are taken in by this…

The figure for abolishing the top rate of tax is somewhere between £2 and £3 billion. Not £1 billion.

It’s not true that the rest go to lower paid workers.

About £15 billion will go to scrapping the corporation tax rise. £16 billion will go on reducing National Insurance, which will benefit higher earners more than lower earners.