Did anyone watch the panorama documentary about the psych hospital and wasn't shocked?

[missbipolar]

As someone who's had several psych admissions, the panorama doc didn't shock me. When I was one of the wards one of the support staff told me if I really wanted to die DESCRIPTION OF SUICIDE METHODS WITHDRAWN BY MNHQ we used to hear the night staff bitching about patients, checks often weren't preformed correctly- I was 5 minute checks for awhile and on multiple occasions wasn't checked for 45mins to an hour. Patients get locked out of their rooms as its "easier" for staff to deal with but this can sometimes be for over 24 hours and there's not really any place for them to sleep outside of the room. And then when you get discharged in alot of cases there's almost zero follow up for a while which means people end up bouncing back in. Rooms where frequently stripped and it took could weeks for people to get their stuff back, with some often wearing the same clothes for several days.

Obviously what happened at the hospital on panorama was dangerous and they absolutely deserve to be shut down but did anyone else not actually find it shocking?

POST EDITED BT MNHQ

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p082bxzn

www.itv.com/hub/secure-hospital-uncovered-exposure/10a1607

(Apologies Stacey Dooley was not undercover)

www.communitycare.co.uk/2019/05/23/reaction-panorama-programme-abuse-learning-disability-hospital/

Haven't see it. But I doubt it will surprise me. My parents are retired social workers and went to such places weekly.

Why was the post taken down describing suicide. Surely we should be able to talk about these delicate issues?

Schools are also underfunded, yes, and the most minimum result of that is that children aren't getting the help they need with their education. There are shit staff in schools which don't pay well or provide decent training. Support for the most vulnerable children is bad/missing. Safe gaurding situations are missed.

If children were in their state schools round the clock, i don't doubt there would be abuse in some cases.

Bad practice, careless attitudes and abusive behaviour thrive in under funded, understaffed and under trained jobs.

As pp said: not all bad staff are abusive, but all abusive staff are bad. Bad work places attract bad staff and repel good ones.

It's a simplified message - but under funding does lead to abuse going unchallenged.

It does if it results in the employment of unsuitable staff.

I think if you go to work in a toxic environment, if you are quite naieve it's easy to get sucked into that cycle of abusive behaviour ,I remember the first ward i worked on as a newly qualified mental health nurse back in the 90,s there were quire a few stsff with really strong characters ,who were not necessarily the most caring nurses, they were not anything like the staff shown on this documentary, but they had a low level.dislike of some patients ,mainly patients with challenging behaviour, its easy to get drawn in ,I think sometimes staff have t9 step back to see the bigger picture and realise sometimes they are part of the problem.

Sadly not surprised at all.
This goes on far more than most people realise, up and down the country, wherever vulnerable people are being looked after.

I have an extremely vulnerable family member who has been treated appallingly by many so called professionals their whole life, including being punched in the face, being lifted up by their neck, having their complaints totally dismissed time and time again, stopped from eating, physically prevented from using the toilet, manipulated and lied to, been screamed abuse at, name calling, told they are hated by professionals.
When this family member eventually attempted to commit suicide after months of self harming, was told by mental health professionals that it was their family that was responsible for making them feel suicidal, as apparently, suicide and self harm issues are deemed to be the fault of whoever cares for the person, if they cannot find another plausible reason within a short counselling session.
This is despite family members repeatedly detailing a comprehensive list of support that this person needs, which social care agree needs to be put in place, but with the red tape and politics that surround securing funding and the way providers of support are expected to wait months for payment, even once funding has been agreed, many providers cannot afford to wait and are now insisting upon payment up front, leaving my relative without the necessary support, but apparently, it is all the fault of the family that family member is suicidal and self harming. 🤔

Used to work in mental health, supporting young people when they came out of psychiatric units - not shocked at all, unfortunately

Professionals are also frightened to whistleblow for fear of losing their career - it’s is a realistic fear as well. the supposed protection in place isn’t sufficient and there is a real risk of senior staff banding together to cover up.

"Built in with the bricks"

It's a well known phrase used for staff like this.

My dh ended up on one after an episode of psychosis. It was a terrible place but there was no where else for him to go and we were in the dark about these things. We've since had mental health nurses visiting him at home and the majority have been marvellous people.

Just watched this programme on catch-up. Absolutely appalling behaviour by staff. I’ve worked on understaffed wards (general wards- 1 nurse to 16 patients) and I’ve never seen such behaviour as this. It’s cruel, bullying behaviour and I hope something is done very quickly.

I was shocked and very saddened by it.
I'm sorry that you have experienced such terrible care. Have you been able to complain about the care you received and has anyone listened to you?

Have you been able to complain about the care you received and has anyone listened to you?

No, Yes (after several months and I had to quit services for someone to listen and then it was only done because they realised they were implicated by not raising it, not because they actually wanted to raise it), and currently a big fat No.

I have only used that phrase used positively, although admittedly outside of institutional settings.