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To think the Tories are a threat to everything we've worked for?

39 replies

verdantverdure · 30/09/2022 06:57

House prices are falling.

Monthly mortgage payments on perfectly ordinary houses are going up to £2k or £3k a month. A woman on Question Time last night says if she wants a fixed rate she's looking at a 10% interest rate. (It's likely to be 7.5% on variable when the base rate goes to 6%)

40% has been wiped off pension funds even after the Bank of England stepped in to save them from going bust with £65billion of our money

Energy bills are still about to be about three times what they were in 2021.

£500billion was wiped off share prices so our investments, if we have any aren't worth what they were.

They've devalued the pound to its lowest level ever, and inflation's rampant everything's going up, so if we have savings we'll likely be dipping into them quite a lot even before some of us lose our jobs.

If you've "done everything right" by Conservative Party standards all your life you're about to see it all come crashing down aren't you?

Because of the Conservative Party ideology of reducing taxation and letting the markets decide

Because that ideology is tanking our economy isn't it?

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verdantverdure · 30/09/2022 07:26

Right wing think tanks are tanking our economy to be precise.

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OnTheBrinkOfChange · 30/09/2022 07:31

I completely agree with you. It's such a mess. I am really glad that they only have themselves to blame for this.

HesterAndPearlInBrightSunshine · 30/09/2022 07:31

Tired of quite literally paying for the destructive decisions of pirates who pillage and plunder the country while making us collectively walk the plank.

Shortjanet · 30/09/2022 07:32

YANBU I'll be protesting tomorrow. Might not make any difference but at least it's something I can do to show I'm pissed off. We're so powerless in the face of this smash and grab.

wesayenough.co.uk/oct1/

Shortjanet · 30/09/2022 07:36

There's also the petition. Government commented (we don't care, we'll do whatever we want) at 10000 signed. Now it's past 100000 they will need to consider it for debate. Again, it might not achieve much but at least it's a way of trying to get our voices heard.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/619781

Summerhillsquare · 30/09/2022 07:38

Shortjanet · 30/09/2022 07:32

YANBU I'll be protesting tomorrow. Might not make any difference but at least it's something I can do to show I'm pissed off. We're so powerless in the face of this smash and grab.

wesayenough.co.uk/oct1/

I will be joining you! I am frightened of this government and I am one of the lucky ones with a secure job.

hobbledyhoy · 30/09/2022 07:38

HesterAndPearlInBrightSunshine · 30/09/2022 07:31

Tired of quite literally paying for the destructive decisions of pirates who pillage and plunder the country while making us collectively walk the plank.

What an excellent way to put it.

ZenNudist · 30/09/2022 07:40

Yes I was thinking today that everything I've worked for for 10 years that I've put in pension will be worth less. I'm never going to be able to retire. I'm definitely a target Conservative (vote Labour but high earning) but they don't speak for me, they seem to be the party of the mega rich and landed gentry.

You'd think you could bust a gut to get a 6 figure professional salary and be able to relax in a comfortable nice home with nice holidays and security in retirement but that doesn't seem to be on the cards for me. Still shoehorned into a semi and taking holidays in Norfolk not Kenya and Maldives. And so I'm someone who's got it good. God help others on less. Bastards bastards bastards!

Babyroobs · 30/09/2022 07:41

It makes me very angry. I don't understand how house prices can be allowed to rise so ridiculously or interest rates stay so low for so long, then again I don't understand why people stretched themselves so much. Around my area a small 3 bed new build goes for £300k. My collegues daughter has just bought one and they cashed in pension funds early to give her large sums towards the deposit. Ridiculous.

pisspants · 30/09/2022 07:42

Yes. The only positive in all of this is that hopefully this is the conservatives done for a very long time.
We need a decent, principled government willing to invest in our public services.
Working people have had enough of being financially abused by what is meant to be our government.

Shortjanet · 30/09/2022 07:43

People haven't chosen to stretch themselves with big mortgages. They've had no choice but to pay what the market has demanded for a roof over their heads.

Babyroobs · 30/09/2022 07:43

I am on a low income. Have literally worked for 40 years and have little to show for it. Trying to get kids through Uni and have to pay almost 5k for ds's Uni accommodation before the start of Jan. Relieved I no longer have a mortgage and feel for those who do.

verdantverdure · 30/09/2022 07:44

Shortjanet · 30/09/2022 07:36

There's also the petition. Government commented (we don't care, we'll do whatever we want) at 10000 signed. Now it's past 100000 they will need to consider it for debate. Again, it might not achieve much but at least it's a way of trying to get our voices heard.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/619781

It really worries me that they can do this to us without a mandate and there's nothing we can do about it. Going to sign now.

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verdantverdure · 30/09/2022 07:46

Shortjanet · 30/09/2022 07:32

YANBU I'll be protesting tomorrow. Might not make any difference but at least it's something I can do to show I'm pissed off. We're so powerless in the face of this smash and grab.

wesayenough.co.uk/oct1/

There's a thread on here about whether this is state capture and dictatorship and it got he thinking about how there's very little we can do about it whike they tank our economy and throw away this country's prosperity.

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verdantverdure · 30/09/2022 07:49

OnTheBrinkOfChange · 30/09/2022 07:31

I completely agree with you. It's such a mess. I am really glad that they only have themselves to blame for this.

Much as they try to blame everybody from Keir Starmer to "Remainers" to "the lefties" at the institutions of capitalism like the IMF and Moody's.

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LadyApplejack · 30/09/2022 07:49

Babyroobs · 30/09/2022 07:41

It makes me very angry. I don't understand how house prices can be allowed to rise so ridiculously or interest rates stay so low for so long, then again I don't understand why people stretched themselves so much. Around my area a small 3 bed new build goes for £300k. My collegues daughter has just bought one and they cashed in pension funds early to give her large sums towards the deposit. Ridiculous.

In fairness housing costs a lot here whether you rent or buy, in fact monthly mortgages have been much cheaper than rents so I can well understand why people chose the former rather than pay an extortionate rent to pay off someone else's mortgage. We all knew rates could only go up, but nobody predicted the situation would go berserk practically overnight.

MrsDoyle351 · 30/09/2022 07:52

@Shortjanet

Thanks for the links - petition signed and will go to protest tomorrow. Also written an email to local (Tory) MP for whatever good that will do Confused

YukoandHiro · 30/09/2022 07:53

Correct. Luckily this means there will be far fewer conservative voters for at least two decades.
A completely different economic approach is long overdue and will have a massive positive effect on our wellbeing even if it doesn't immediately turn around personal financial pressures - eg better schools, funding the nhs, reliable public services, more support for families

Shortjanet · 30/09/2022 07:53

The only thing we can do is be vocal about it and hope that the rest of the parliamentary party rein her in. They know that ultimately their jobs depend on public opinion. Even the comments on the DM are anti Tory at the moment. That must be worrying any sane ones? I really hope there's a decent turnout for the protests and that they are reported on.

Vinorosso74 · 30/09/2022 07:55

I've never voted Tory and doubt I ever will. They don't even act like they care. The top rate tax cut was the most ridiculous move. Everything is a mess and I'm angry with them.
On paper we should be okay as a household but with the cost of everything increasing, it is going to be a struggle. The NHS, schools, all public services are severely underfunded which affects pretty much everyone yet their cronies are all lining their pockets. It's all wrong so wrong.

Shortjanet · 30/09/2022 07:55

MrsDoyle351 · 30/09/2022 07:52

@Shortjanet

Thanks for the links - petition signed and will go to protest tomorrow. Also written an email to local (Tory) MP for whatever good that will do Confused

Good point - mine isn't a Tory but I'll write anyway. I just plan to make as much noise as I can and hope lots of others do the same.

verdantverdure · 30/09/2022 14:58

HesterAndPearlInBrightSunshine · 30/09/2022 07:31

Tired of quite literally paying for the destructive decisions of pirates who pillage and plunder the country while making us collectively walk the plank.

Amen.

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verdantverdure · 30/09/2022 15:01

I've never been to a protest in my life, but I too am frightened of how much damage this mad government can do to us in two years @Summerhillsquare

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verdantverdure · 30/09/2022 15:02

pisspants · 30/09/2022 07:42

Yes. The only positive in all of this is that hopefully this is the conservatives done for a very long time.
We need a decent, principled government willing to invest in our public services.
Working people have had enough of being financially abused by what is meant to be our government.

I know I have.

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Mama234567 · 30/09/2022 15:12

The only positive in all of this is that people might vote better next time. Can only hope.

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