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To think that a lot of people on here enjoy being miserable and take delight in making others equally so?

44 replies

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 28/09/2022 14:44

Let me preface this post with the following:

I am aware there is a cost of living crisis, war in Ukraine, ongoing issues re Covid and Brexit, death of HMQ and budget.

BUT

The endless handwringing threads on here do not achieve anything other than creating a sense of panic and doom...making the misery everyone says they are feeling even worse!!!

We cannot:

'Undo' the Brexit vote. I wish we could, but it is not a possibility. We would have to apply to rejoin the EU, that is not going to happen. Why would they want us back?

'Undo' the Covid spending

Stop the war in Ukraine

We can:

Vote differently next year

Lobby our MPs re energy prices and trade deals

Shop and eat differently for a while. It won't be fun, but we can do it and keep in mind that we have only had the abundance we have enjoyed recently for an extremely short time.

Keep calm and carry on

Do the small things we can to keep each other cheerful

Times have been bad before and they will be good again. We just need to keep up hope.

OP posts:
Fairyliz · 28/09/2022 17:10

Blimey op stop being so reasonable this is MN don’t you know.
We all have to go around shouting we are doomed or you can’t join the club.

ByJoveMaryPoppins · 28/09/2022 17:12

I think I will take up shoplifting as a hobby

ByJoveMaryPoppins · 28/09/2022 17:13

Just joking

You are absolutely right OP

MN is quite a bad place some days, when I am having a mental health day, I cannot come on here

wackamole · 28/09/2022 17:24

Jackienory · 28/09/2022 17:08

in that they think that the UK cannot rejoin the European Single Market soon, and I am confident that we can

Then you are delusional. Kier Starmer this July... "So let me be very clear: with Labour, Britain will not go back into the EU. We will not be joining the single market. We will not be joining a customs union,”

You can, of course, keep talking about it but I'm not sure who's listening and of course, the collective chorus can keep telling you to shut up.

Interestingly I heard on the radio that Angela Raynor is warning of Boris planning his comeback. We'll wait to see what he makes of the Conservative Party Conference. If he energises a packed, standing-room-only, auditorium with an absolute barnstormer, then I wouldn't advise Liz to unpack just yet. Stranger things have happened. But hey, let's wave the EU flag, I'm sure Giorgia Meloni is listening.

Keep smiling.

So Starmer doesn't want to rejoin the single market. So what? This thread is about how the Conservatives refuse to consider the full range of options for the UK at the moment. You've added that Labour leadership currently ALSO refuses to consider the full range of options. That has absolutely nothing at all to do with whether the UK CAN rejoin the European Single Market, and even less about whteher Scotland can.

DoodlePug · 28/09/2022 17:26

I'm very much up for people processing their thoughts and if writing them down makes them feel better then that's great.

But I feel you are right in that it magnifies fear and uncertainty, causes anxiety because it feels like a bombardment.

I also agree that people should get a workable plan instead of wringing their hands and wailing, but that does cone after the processing.

I think yanu for drawing attention to it.

Mangogogogo · 28/09/2022 18:36

I often find it’s competitive races to the bottom on here. I avoid the threads as I get bored

Devo1818 · 28/09/2022 18:39

I feel like I can't mention how much I love winter and cold weather and Christmas without someone correcting me - I am now no longer allowed to like these things because cost of living. On here and irl.

ilovesooty · 28/09/2022 20:45

Devo1818 · 28/09/2022 18:39

I feel like I can't mention how much I love winter and cold weather and Christmas without someone correcting me - I am now no longer allowed to like these things because cost of living. On here and irl.

Mumsnet seems to be full of people who loathe even remotely warm weather and eulogise about Autumn, winter, snuggling, cosy and toasty.

Neverfullycharged · 28/09/2022 20:47

That’s not wrong, though, is it?

I like both, but by the end of summer I do feel ready for a change in season. I love the autumn and run up to Christmas, but then I also love February and the first spring flowers.

People just like what they like.

GerronBuzanDoThaWomwok · 28/09/2022 20:49

Patronising, OP

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 29/09/2022 18:45

GerronBuzanDoThaWomwok · 28/09/2022 20:49

Patronising, OP

How is revelling in misery and not looking at what might be done to change things empowering?

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Randomword6 · 29/09/2022 18:47

You're lucky you feel positive OP, but just don't read the threads that aren't.

Cookiemonster2022 · 29/09/2022 18:49

Your post makes you sound naive to say that this is for short term. People will be affected for long time. Unable to afford housing etc will have long term impact. And everyone's feeling is valid for the nightmare which has unfolded

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 29/09/2022 18:56

Cookiemonster2022 · 29/09/2022 18:49

Your post makes you sound naive to say that this is for short term. People will be affected for long time. Unable to afford housing etc will have long term impact. And everyone's feeling is valid for the nightmare which has unfolded

Where did I say it was short term? I said times have been bad before and will be good again. That is true. Those of us who will be less affected can help those who will be more so, and those who will be more so have options re their votes too. Just lying down under the doom is far scarier to me.

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QueenieL1 · 29/09/2022 19:05

There's always someone predicting riots too, ordinary families and middle class people don't riot over tax cuts.

ThisShipIsSinking · 29/09/2022 19:23

This time last year the whole MN forum concerned re Covid, now flooded re cost of living, and this time next year it will be something else because life does not adhere to anyones personal agenda, people on here tend to forget that, life has a will of its own and how you adapt to that makes all the difference, none of it bothers me to be honest, l refuse to get in a state about it, it comes and it goes, l focus my energy on what 's going right, if a problem can be solved by money or medicine, its not a problem in my book and l am a single parent on a low income yet l am happier and have more peace of mind than most on here judging by the endless negative posts.
This is a very unhealthy forum, people feed off each others misery.

GerronBuzanDoThaWomwok · 29/09/2022 23:06

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 29/09/2022 18:45

How is revelling in misery and not looking at what might be done to change things empowering?

It's this assertion. I haven't read one post that is revelling in misery. Or did you mean that even reading these reads constitutes revelling in misery? If so, then yes, deeply patronising. You cannot know how helpful, supportive or informative other people may find them. If you don't, fine, go and do something else. I hear Tunbridge Wells is very pleasant at this time of year.🙄

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 02/10/2022 18:45

GerronBuzanDoThaWomwok · 29/09/2022 23:06

It's this assertion. I haven't read one post that is revelling in misery. Or did you mean that even reading these reads constitutes revelling in misery? If so, then yes, deeply patronising. You cannot know how helpful, supportive or informative other people may find them. If you don't, fine, go and do something else. I hear Tunbridge Wells is very pleasant at this time of year.🙄

If the reference to Tunbridge is that I am too posh to be affected. You could not be further from the truth. I am born and bred Mancunian from a really rough area and I am not living anywhere more affluent as an adult. It is bad, but constantly saying how bad it is does fuck all. We have to look for what we can change.

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GerronBuzanDoThaWomwok · 02/10/2022 20:09

No, it was a nod to disgusted of Tunbridge Wells, the veteran letter writer to newspapers who opined about anything they didn't like or understand. If you don't find the threads you mention helpful, no problem. But many, many people find them a source of support. So yes, I take exception to your words:

The endless handwringing threads on here do not achieve anything other than creating a sense of panic and doom...making the misery everyone says they are feeling even worse!!!

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