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Who pays to work? Registration fees

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Blueotter22 · 27/09/2022 18:46

Hello,

just posting here for traffic and hoping to gain some insight to other peoples professions really.

Im an allied health care professional and we’ve just been told that the HCPC are looking to increase our annual fees by 20% to keep up with inflation apparently.

For me, a single mum and band 6 NHS professional this means I’ll be paying £33 a month for my HCPC fees and membership to my professional body. £405 a year just to legally do my job. I think this is outrageous and unfair, especially when they haven’t justified exactly what they are spending their 33 million on (that’s how much the HCPC take in fees a year)

I can’t do my job without being a member of the HCPC and having indemnity cover. I either pay or find a job elsewhere outside of healthcare.

I understand it’s important to have the HCPC and a process to report unsafe healthcare workers etc. But we also have to pay for our DBS and rarely get dedicated CPD time to meet our HCPC standards. Yet we can be called upon for audit to show how we have maintained our CPD.

Anyways, it just got me thinking, which other professions pay to work and if you wouldn’t mind sharing - how much do you pay and what do you get for that?

I know nurses and social workers pay too but unsure their fees. Do accountants/ lawyers pay to be registered?

thanks so much in advance

OP posts:
CanaryShoulderedThorn · 28/09/2022 07:53

Bluebirds1987 · 28/09/2022 07:03

@cariaaad @FlippertyGibberts it's my CSP membership I was talking about (chartered society of physiotherapy) not the HCPC. The HCPC is mandatory but the CSP, which provides extra indemnity as well as the union, is not.

Check with your Trust Bluebirds.
It is a requirement of mine that allied health professionals maintain HCPC registration AND CSP/RCOT membership.

I lost any respect for HCPC when they spent £17k on a staff Christmas party.

I live in hope that they will be suddenly scrapped (as with the GTC and teaching). The onus would then fall on the employer to ensure staff were safe to practice, (which is already the case to a large extent).

Lonecatwithkitten · 28/09/2022 07:56

Vet RCVS membership £364 not covered by employer. Professional indemnity covered by employer.
BVA membership covered by employer - don't use it pointless for me.
BSAVA membership - £329 most useful membership of all relevant formularies as app on my phone instantly accessible.
Not earning anywhere near what anyone would believe as a clinical Director running a clinic with just shy of 2M turnover.

MinnieMountain · 28/09/2022 08:04

Solicitor. My employer pays mine.

CanaryShoulderedThorn · 28/09/2022 08:05

Oh and I also have to pay to park at work as well. £40 a month at my hospital.
No other travel options as I'm in a community role and need a car to travel between patients.

PandaOrLion · 28/09/2022 08:25

(Private) psychotherapist
£50pa insurance
£70 and £140 to two professional bodies each year
Around £300-£600 yearly to hit the minimum CPD quota
£10 for supervison per client each fortnight (usual rota of 1hr supervison:12 client hours.

Its not a protected title though so anyone can call
themselves a therapist and not have any of this or any qualifications!

sashh · 28/09/2022 08:39

OP

Off topic but are you claiming all your tax allowances? You should get a deduction for 'stockings and shoes' and another if you have to launder your uniform yourself.

www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/employment-income-manual/eim67210

Blueotter22 · 28/09/2022 09:26

sashh · 28/09/2022 08:39

OP

Off topic but are you claiming all your tax allowances? You should get a deduction for 'stockings and shoes' and another if you have to launder your uniform yourself.

www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/employment-income-manual/eim67210

And everyone else who has been really lovely and helpful on this post, thank you.

Im going to call the hmrc and make sure I’m claiming all relief I can. I have recently changed roles but had claimed in my previous role for working from home but now I’m community/school based I’ll make sure I’m getting back everything I can.

It’s been a real eye opener to read how much people pay to work! I get it’s part of being a professional and maybe others might read this thread and say well working in health is your choice, but it does feel like an unfair system for band 5/6 professionals whose pay isn’t great. Who are also paying off student loans and hospital car parking on top of registration and professional body memberships. So when you read in the media about the NHS staff getting a “pay rise”, please think of the other costs they have to pay just to get through the door and actually provide care.

OP posts:
2pinkginsplease · 28/09/2022 09:32

ChocolateTriffle · 27/09/2022 20:28

Early Years Practitioner. Pay yearly for SSSC registration. Its not a big sum though. Cant remember how much it is now exactly.

EYP here too and I’ve just paid mine. £35 a year which is nothing compared to what some people pay just to be able to work.

my last employer (private nursery) used to pay ours for us im working for LA now and you have to pay it yourself.

PeterPomegranate · 28/09/2022 09:35

Occupational Psychologist (work psychologist) and I work in HR.

I am registered with the HCPC as a psychology practitioner (even though I don’t work in healthcare - it was a decision made about 10 years ago despite protests by occupational psychologists at the time).

I am also a member of the BPS as that’s my professional body. There is also a fee to be a registered psychometric test user.

And an associate member of the CIPD because I work in HR.

My old employer used to pay for one membership. My new one doesn’t. I suppose I could give up my chartership as it’s not strictly needed but I don’t want to after working hard for it! And it might be important for a future role.

Offredismysister · 28/09/2022 09:36

NMC here too, so £120, then union & we also have to pay for our DBS at my place of work.

SweetPetrichor · 28/09/2022 09:50

Mine is approx £215 per year (engineer). This is paid on company credit card though and covered by employer so doesn’t impact me…just a bit of annual admin.

Spidey66 · 28/09/2022 09:52

Nurse, £120 pa. It's a waste of money. Most is going on the rent on their posh Central London office.

BeachStripes · 28/09/2022 09:53

Doctor -

GMC £400 per year
Indemnity - mine actually not too bad at £500 per year, other specialities much higher, can be into 1000s (GP, O&G…)

BMA - not technically compulsory £40/month

When you complete your junior doctor years you need to pay £500 for your name to be added to the specialist register. You can’t work as a substantive consultant without this. I have no idea why this costs £500 in addition to the annual subscription fees.

As a junior doctor you have to pay for royal college membership so you can
access the portfolio £172/year.

You also need to pay for all your mandatory exams.

For example for a physician you would need

MRCP part 1 - £460
MRCP part 2 - £450
MRCP PACES - £657

SCE - £665.

Luckily I passed mine all first time but many don’t, especially as it’s quite hard to study around working a brutal rota.

And you need to buy all your own kit e.g. stethoscope.

I’ve never paid the £15 DBS fee though, always got work to do that.
And I refused to pay £10 for a photocopy of
my vaccination history to be sent to occupational health in another trust.

Royal college membership as a consultant £180-238 depending on years qualified. You can technically work without this.

NippyWoowoo · 28/09/2022 10:26

I’m a nanny. I earn below the UK average salary, for context.

Annually:

Ofsted renewal on childcare register: £103

Insurance (public liability): £66

DBS update: £13 (but £40 on initial certificate)

Every 3 years: first aid at around £80

When I first registered I paid just short of £400 (I needed fresh DBS and first aid to qualify, and also needed to complete a course that was around £80).

Being Ofsted registered isn’t mandatory, but as it’s required in order for parents to be able to use Childcare Vouchers or claim Tax Free childcare, it opens a nanny up to a lot more job opportunities.

Childminders don’t have a choice, they have to be registered, so they will have similar costs as well I’d expect.

BeachStripes · 28/09/2022 10:44

Appreciate that doctors do go on to have a good salary and job security, however I think the amount you need to pay out in the early years does nothing to increase diversity. Thankfully I did my exams whilst working full time and living with DH but before I had family. Single people with childcare commitments working less than full time etc very likely to struggle.

And whilst the £10 is a relatively small amount in no way does it cost £10 to photocopy something! They weren’t even going to post it, I was to do that!

shivawn · 28/09/2022 10:52

I live in Ireland. I'm a nurse and I pay €100 a year out of my own pocket. My husband is an accountant and I can't remember how much his fees are but they're a good bit more expensive than mine, around €350-€400 I think, but luckily his employer reimburses him.

GorillaTape · 29/09/2022 12:03

BeachStripes · 28/09/2022 10:44

Appreciate that doctors do go on to have a good salary and job security, however I think the amount you need to pay out in the early years does nothing to increase diversity. Thankfully I did my exams whilst working full time and living with DH but before I had family. Single people with childcare commitments working less than full time etc very likely to struggle.

And whilst the £10 is a relatively small amount in no way does it cost £10 to photocopy something! They weren’t even going to post it, I was to do that!

Diversity in what way?

BeachStripes · 29/09/2022 23:59

As in making medicine accessible to those from all walks of life and backgrounds not just the stereotypical middle class, well off, private school, good a-levels, multiple extra curriculars, good parental financial safety net/support types.

GorillaTape · 30/09/2022 00:11

BeachStripes · 29/09/2022 23:59

As in making medicine accessible to those from all walks of life and backgrounds not just the stereotypical middle class, well off, private school, good a-levels, multiple extra curriculars, good parental financial safety net/support types.

Unfortunately it’s not going to.

painfully long hours, lots of debt…,

PinkPupZ · 30/09/2022 00:14

I am also under HCPC and a lone parent so I really struggle. Also professional body fees are 25 a month. No reduction for part timers either.

NurseInTraining · 30/09/2022 00:17

Hi, student nurse here. I feel dense but what are HCPC fees?

HollaHolla · 30/09/2022 01:42

Chartered HE Professional Services. It’s not required, but it helps with promotions, etc. But at £24 a month, not reimbursed, it adds up. Then my union fees are another £20
on top of that. Also not reimbursed.

NurseInTraining · 30/09/2022 01:53

HollaHolla · 30/09/2022 01:42

Chartered HE Professional Services. It’s not required, but it helps with promotions, etc. But at £24 a month, not reimbursed, it adds up. Then my union fees are another £20
on top of that. Also not reimbursed.

Thanks. Can I ask what union you belong to? As a student I joined RCN and Unison and I am leaning towards RCN as they seem most useful but I would be interested in your opinion as a qualified. It is only about £5 a year for student membership so it makes sense to join both. Sorry to jump on your post.

FatMog · 30/09/2022 02:54

Union is £23/month. It's the one stopping you from catching a train this weekend.

I used to be an undergraduate nursing student and I remember paying RCN fees etc. Bloody annoying.

NurseInTraining · 30/09/2022 02:57

FatMog · 30/09/2022 02:54

Union is £23/month. It's the one stopping you from catching a train this weekend.

I used to be an undergraduate nursing student and I remember paying RCN fees etc. Bloody annoying.

Sorry to ask personal questions but what made you chose one union over another?

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