To think councils should move people to smaller properties when kids move out?

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There's a huge lack of 3 bedroom social housing where I live (and everywhere I think?)
a lot of the people living in the 3 bed places are usually just 1 or 2 adults as the kids have grown up and moved out. Meanwhile there's lots of young families overcrowded in 1 and 2 bed flats with no garden etc
aibu to think those that actually need the space should be in the houses and those who don't should be made to downsize?
as the waiting list is so long, what tends to happen is peoples children are in their teens by the time they are moved into a 3 bed property, the grow up and leave within a couple of years and the parents stay, so the vast majority are under-occupied.

There's a big lack of smaller properties here.

Unless you count the high-rise flats being built everywhere but why would you move older people into them? You'd just be storing up more problems as they become elderly and can't cope with stairs/ever faulty lifts.

So like any other private rent they shouldn’t decorate or floor it.

How kind. I don't think you've thought this through.

In the case of someone I know who is disabled and doesn't drive shouldn't have minded being told that the house they were given was 20 miles away because it's within the same council?
The only way of getting to their job with the move was public transport... taking 2-2.5 hours each way, and that's assuming it was accessible for them, which is by no means guarenteed. All their friends and support had been within walking distance etc.

Why do people do this. Post the extremes like it’s the majority

So council tenants shouldn't have the opportunity to make their homes nice and personalise it to their own taste, because they're poor, can't afford to buy somewhere, and they might be turfed out soon anyway.

Lovely.

How are elderly people supposed to manage in flats with no lift or a lift thats keeps breaking down.
Where I live,there are not enough 1/2 bedroom homes or bungalows for people to downsize into and the few that there are are not suitable.
At least if they stay in the homes that theyve lived in for years they can fit a stair lift. They also have support around them.

Yes they are new builds, the whole block is housing association

There are none where I am. If I was made to move out of the area I hope you'd be willing to pay my benefits for me as I'd have to give up my job due to the hours I work and there being no public transport to get me there on time.

It's their home not not owned.

Why do people do this. Post the extremes like it’s the majority

It happens quite a lot. Bidding for housing is brutal.

So council tenants shouldn't have the opportunity to make their homes nice and personalise it to their own taste, because they're poor, can't afford to buy somewhere, and they might be turfed out soon anyway.

no because it’s rented and not theirs. Just like private rent.

It isn't a private rental. It is social housing.

FFS, why do people want to downgrade everything? Britain used to be a decent place before the nasty bastards started picking apart everything that was good.

Social housing is something we want more of, not less of.

I agree. Two friends I went to school with have parents who still live in their three-bedroom council houses even though their kids are now in their 30s.

People who private rent also view the property as their homes but can be turned out with a few months' notice when they landlord decides to sell up. Also, larger houses cost more to rent so tenants naturally downsize, despite it feeling like their home, when their children have flown the nest to reduce the rental cost.

I do think the same should apply to council houses, especially when the demand and need is so high.

If someone is paying rent like anyone else would for house they have lived in for a long time what is the problem. Like someone said stop having kids if you don't have room in your current home or can't afford a bigger space.

Council tenants are supposed to decorate themselves and put whatever flooring in they want. The tenancy agreements state this.

I can see both sides of this one. My family member was in a 3 bed council house for nigh on 60 years. Never moved out when kids grew up. It was her home and that was it. Seems unfair that she lived here when there are families with kids in B and Bs etc

However another part of me thinks that there are probably people who are having extra kids when they are already living in B and Bs...which is irresponsible.

It's a tough one.

It is nothing like private rent. Private rent is private rent, social housing is social housing.

It isn't a private rental. It is social housing.

what? Either way it’s rented accommodation irrelevant of who your landlord is.

I don't think we should have accidental or hobby ll at all, I don't think housing should be an investment vehicle for unprofessional(unlicensed) landlords. Your home should be secure and if you aren't able to buy there should be long term rental options.

I do also agree with the point however that having say a second or third child then complaining there are not any three beds when your in a 1-2bed was silly and of your own doing. That’s not falling on hardship, losing your private rental, losing your mortgaged home etc

Thats a pre planned we have this social housing house, we have one-two children already let’s have a third then moan that we are stuck in a one-two.

When a tenant leaves they have to rip up all the carpets and paint it back to whatever colour the council (or HA in my case) tells them to. Do private tenants not have carpets or any other flooring when they move in then? Or like me do they just have cold concrete floors that they are expected to walk on?

It’s always the poor being bashed. It’s not the poor in social housing that are to blame for homelessness. They are just easy targets for other desperate people.

Social housing isn't made to make profits it benefits society by having secure, affordable accommodation so we don't end up with homelessness and slums.

Its nothing like private rent!

You obviously have no idea how council tenancies work. People are often given properties with no flooring at all, no carpets, no lino and in poor state of decoration.

But hey they are obviously a sub-species along with those pesky private tenants who have the cheek to want their homes to be comfortable.