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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To have a DC who doesn’t like surprise days out?

14 replies

PanderingParentMaybe · 24/09/2022 22:32

DC is 8, but has processing issues due to dyslexia and dyspraxia. They also have attachment issues due to a genetic condition and trauma due to DV from ExH to me and ExH’s flakiness with contact (which the courts allow but is a whole other story). Because of this routine is key. They can cope with routine changes but need preparation. So if someone different is picking them up from school I tell them at the earliest opportunity. Similar if we go on a day trip or holiday I tell them in advance what to expect. They are usually pretty excited once they know whats happening and for me that’s part of the fun.

They absolutely can cope with other sorts of surprises such as birthday presents or Christmas, as they know what to expect i.e. it’ll be wrapped up and we have to say thank you when they’ve opened it. They also are fine if they’re prepared that something unexpected might happen, so when they have a special guest at school I might say “Just to prewarn you something you’re not expecting might happen at school today but it’s ok because Mrs Jones* knows it’s happening and will be there” they just need time to get their head around it almost. School literally have it down in DCs support plan that they must know about unexpected changes asap so they can go through the processes in their heads – it’s classed a reasonable adjustment. We even get told about fire drills in advance, so I can run through with DC before it happens what to do if they hear the fire bell at school (I never ever tell them exactly when it will happen as school still want there to be some element to it that’s unexpected just like if it was a real fire).

One of my parents hates this though. They want to be able to “surprise” DC by picking them up from school randomly or taking them on an unexpected day out, they forbid me from telling DC if they tell me they want to do something with them and then blame me when it all goes wrong and DC gets upset and refuse to leave school because they didn’t expect grandparent to be there instead of me or they panic on a day trip because they were expecting to spend the day with me/at home.

This happened again over the summer. My parent turned up on my doorstep and asked to take DC out and DC got upset and refused to go because they weren’t expecting gp to turn up. I wasn’t expecting it either otherwise I’d have prepared DC by saying “grandad/grandma wants to take you out for the day”. Parent then shouted at me saying I was pandering to DC and that their friends can just turn up to take their grandchildren out and they jump at the chance so I must be telling DC something bad about them.

I will add, DC behaves impeccably when prepared right, even on school trips because it’s talked about for a few days beforehand DC knows that they’ll get on the bus and go somewhere fun they behave themselves, it’s only when unprepared and not expecting it they freak out (and school do have things in place for this for them such as a TA being on “duty” if they panic during a fire drill but it’s never been needed). I also do days out in the summer holidays and my other parent takes DC out alone a lot and is happy for me to prepare DC however I need to including if needed telling them exactly whats happening. DC has got better over the years with most people they trust, so me, my other parent, school etc. now just say "We're going to be going to a castle, this will be what we do" but no longer exact timings and we can move things around if needed due to DC trusting us - so for example on a day trip I said we'd do X then Y then eat but X took longer so I said we'll eat first then do Y and DC coped fine with it.

So AIBU and pandering to my DC? Or is my parent just really not understanding?
*Not real name

OP posts:
piegone · 24/09/2022 22:33

Your parent is an arsehole. Meeting your child's needs is parenting, not pandering.

ofwarren · 24/09/2022 22:34

YADNBU!
This isn't pandering whatsoever.

Dishwashersaurous · 24/09/2022 22:35

I would say that almost all children cope best with routine and aren't good with complete surprises.

Your parent is wrong.

DelurkingAJ · 24/09/2022 22:37

Good grief! My eldest would have had a complete meltdown at that and (whilst he does have ASD) he hasn’t been through half what your DC has. Hold firm, you’re in the right. (I fear your DParent sees your DC as a prop, rather than an individual).

Brokendaughter · 24/09/2022 22:39

Your parent is unreasonable to think that what they want is more important than making it an enjoyable experience for your child.

It doesn't matter what other people do with their grandchildren because it isn't about them.

It isn't even reasonable to be so careless of the fact you might have already made plans.
Sounds controlling.

Amarette · 24/09/2022 22:40

Selfish grandparents putting their wants and needs over a child's.

OutDamnedSpot · 24/09/2022 22:56

We have a similar problem. DS is autistic and can’t manage surprises at all - even at birthdays and Christmas, we have to tell him which presents are the ‘good ones’ and which are less interesting so he might want to open those first, and we accept that he might not open them all at once (or even for a few days!)

Most people accept this, but his previous school was crap at preparing him for unexpected events, and my dad still wants to give him surprise presents etc.

it’s really hard to manage, but at the end of the day, I have to choose between supporting an autistic child or a fully grown adult, who should know better, so sometimes I have had to be short with my dad.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 24/09/2022 23:00

YANBU.

Honestly, is your parent hard of understanding or something?

Sooverthisnow · 24/09/2022 23:02

I have a DS like this, he’s an adult now and still isn’t keen on surprises. He likes to know what’s happening in advance.
As a child he would get stressed going to a holiday house because he didn’t know what to expect. Video tours were a godsend!
You are not being unreasonable, it’s just important that you give him the coping strategies to deal with the unexpected as he grows up.
Your parent is being massively unreasonable.

SomethingNastyInTheBallPool · 24/09/2022 23:08

Your parent is an idiot.

Chattycathydoll · 24/09/2022 23:13

I’m like that now. DP (who I do not live with) took a day off and turned up to surprise me one day. I wasn’t working and had said I missed him. I burst into tears and tried so hard not to be angry because it was a lovely thing to do, but I felt angry and upset because- I hadn’t planned it! I hadn’t expected it! I had a rough shape of how my day was going to go and he wasn’t in it! So even though I really missed him, I was crying because he was there, and felt so angry with myself because it was so stupid but…

Some people don’t cope well with surprises, I guess!

In the end I cleared it in my brain because I had planned to be out before doing x task at home, so if the ‘out’ part of my day included him it all worked. But kids don’t have the skills to reframe like that anyway.

I’m so annoyed on your DC’s behalf.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 24/09/2022 23:36

I had a rough shape of how my day was going to go and he wasn’t in it! this is like me. I need to know the shape of the day well before it actually dawns.

My dc are similar Op - none of us like surprise days out- certainly not sprung on us without any discussion. Exh is a terrible one for it too.

i think the grandparent ks being extremely selfish and unfair. Don’t pander to said grandparent - that’s the only thing that would be “pandering”. Keep on doing the right thing by your dc and keeping it structured for them.

LunaAndHerMoonDragons · 24/09/2022 23:39

piegone · 24/09/2022 22:33

Your parent is an arsehole. Meeting your child's needs is parenting, not pandering.

This.

One of my Autistic DC struggles with changes, including down to timing. His diagnosis report literally says struggles with change, needs to be given as much warning of changes as possible.

I hate surprises myself, they trigger my anxiety. It's all internalised for me, so I'm the only one that knows. There are lots of reasons a child might struggle with change or surprises and helping to reduce the impact of that on them isn't pandering, it's good parenting.

I'd be making it clear to this person that if they turn up to surprise DC they won't be welcome to see them. This is a grown adult not wanting to change and trying to force change on a child because THEY don't want to change and not caring how that impacts the child. Your DC doesn't need that in their life.

mamabear715 · 24/09/2022 23:53

I'm sorry you're even having to ask. It would be nice for you to have support from parents rather than extra aggro. :-(

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