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AIBU?

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To think that for nearly £60 a month, we should be warm in the pool?

104 replies

Freezinginthepool · 24/09/2022 18:38

My 20 month old goes to swimming lessons and has since being a little baby (once lockdown was over.) We pay nearly £60 a month for one half hour lesson a week. So really not cheap!

But AIBU to expect a reasonably warm pool for this? This week was shockingly cold.

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Paddingtonthebear · 24/09/2022 19:54

Standard pool temp is 29-30 degrees
Competitive swimmers swim in 27-28 degrees
Important to remember that swimming pools are designed for swimming where you will become warmer through exercise
For baby swimming they don’t move around much so thermal wetsuits are a good idea. Or hydrotherapy pools where the temp is much warmer around 33 degrees, as they are designed for therapy rather than swimming lengths

OnlyMeIJustChangedMyName · 24/09/2022 19:57

People are being really rude to you here.
I find it normal that you ask for other people's experiences before you complain.

We did water babies in a hospital pool used for rehabilitation. It was lovely and warm, but then it was moved to a regular pool and was much cooler. The company charges a lot so I would expect a warm pool for small children.

In your position I would query the temperature, and if it continues being quite cool, either get a little baby wetsuit thing or find a different group.

Stichintimesavesstapling · 24/09/2022 20:01

We do puddleducks and put DS in two wetsuits, not rash vests but proper neoprene ones. They're both by splashabout I think. He has a sleeveless one that has a nappy bit attached and then we pop another one with sleeves and longer legs over the top, it doesn't restrict his movement and it's the only way we get through 30 mins without him turning blue. He still gets cold towards the end though!

donttellmehesalive · 24/09/2022 20:01

DD has a job as a lifeguard at our nearest leisure centre and said the pool was supposed to be kept at 26-28 degrees. I believe it is only therapy pools that can be warmer, I think 30-32. The water should be about 2 degrees cooler than the air. It is about managing humidity for safety and hygiene purposes.

I doubt they'll make it warmer for you, unless people start leaving in droves. They probably are keeping it at the lower end of the permitted band due to cost.

Explaintome · 24/09/2022 20:03

Is it a teaching pool or a general pool? Proper swimming in a pool that's too warm is horrible, so I imagine they have to find a balance in a multi use pool.

Quincythequince · 24/09/2022 20:05

tonightelmowillrise · 24/09/2022 18:47

i’d say most sensible people would try to resolve the issue before taking to mumsnet to moan about something they’ve made no attempts to improve no?

She’s asking if it unreasonable for her to expect it to be warm, not asking for advice what to do about it. She wants opinions.

Don’t be so patronising.

Bordesleyhills · 24/09/2022 20:07

I would expect it warmish yes!

Quincythequince · 24/09/2022 20:07

eddiemairswife · 24/09/2022 19:53

Does a child that young really need swimming lessons? As opposed to just going for a splash around?

Again, or what OP is asking advice on.

Young children probably don’t need many things in the grand scheme of things, do they.

Fundays12 · 24/09/2022 20:09

£15 for private lessons is reasonable. My 3 year olds are £20 a lesson for 30 minutes. It's fair to expect a warm pool. I also believe there is a legal minimum temperature which instructors should be checking daily. The pools my kids learn in are all warmish (definitely not shivering cold). I have noticed recently though all the changing rooms are not as warm as they used to be and the shower temperature lower.

DeadDonkey · 24/09/2022 20:12

Meltingsocks · 24/09/2022 19:44

Cancel the lessons and start when she's 4/5 they learn so little before then it's really just a massive con for middle class parents

Rubbish. I had water confident swimmers who were easily swimming 400m at age 4. Swimming lessons started at 8 weeks.

Having said that I now spend around 8K (probably more) a year on pool sports for 2 teenagers, so maybe I should have started later…

Freezinginthepool · 24/09/2022 20:13

Thanks, for the support as much as anything. Of course I know some people on here just are unpleasant but it’s still crap when you get it on a fairly innocuous thread.

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Mamai90 · 24/09/2022 20:16

tonightelmowillrise · 24/09/2022 18:47

i’d say most sensible people would try to resolve the issue before taking to mumsnet to moan about something they’ve made no attempts to improve no?

Jesus, have a day off love. If you've got nothing valuable to add then sling your hook. It's all I see on here now, pointless sarcastic comments no matter what the OP asks.

Fundays12 · 24/09/2022 20:17

Bunnycat101 · 24/09/2022 19:49

“Cancel the lessons and start when she's 4/5 they learn so little before then it's really just a massive con for middle class parents.”

I also really disagree with this. Both of mine benefited massively from waterbabies. The lesson quality was extremely high from our teacher and set them up brilliantly for leisure centre lessons. It was expensive but I have no regrets at all.

My just turned 3 year old can swim. He can also swim underwater through hoops and has just started learning backstroke. The right instructor and a child that is interested and keen can learn to swim very early.

I wish I had put my eldest into swimming lessons at age 1 years like I did with my 3 year old. My 5 year old had just started to swim himself when lockdown hit. He was 3 and unfortunately regressed massively due to lockdown and not being able to get any after school swimming lessons till recently (he is 5).

Freezinginthepool · 24/09/2022 20:19

Yep @Mamai90 . Just words on the screen but still surprisingly hurtful.

Its shit on here. Wish MNHQ would sort it out. Make it clear that while robust debate is fine bitchy, acerbic remarks really aren’t.

re con for MC parents, if I listened to MN all I’d ever do is tramp around the park. So sod that, variety is the spice of life.

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PaigeTurnerr · 24/09/2022 20:22

fyn · 24/09/2022 18:59

We paid the same amount for 30 minutes and the pool was always cold. We bought a lined warm suit in the end.

yes! this is so huge amount I agree with you.

Annoyingkidsmusic · 24/09/2022 20:24

Buy her a splash about wetsuit. They’re fleece lined (not the equivalent of a rash vest and swimsuit)

and yes, those lessons are expensive.

Mamai90 · 24/09/2022 20:26

Freezinginthepool · 24/09/2022 20:19

Yep @Mamai90 . Just words on the screen but still surprisingly hurtful.

Its shit on here. Wish MNHQ would sort it out. Make it clear that while robust debate is fine bitchy, acerbic remarks really aren’t.

re con for MC parents, if I listened to MN all I’d ever do is tramp around the park. So sod that, variety is the spice of life.

I agree @Freezinginthepool, I actually think it's getting worse and it really pisses me off because it's bullying behaviour. It makes you wonder have some people just got nothing better to do.

itsgettingweird · 24/09/2022 20:41

Barelyable · 24/09/2022 18:52

My kids were taught to swim at Loughborough Uni where the British Team train.
When I asked why it was so cold I was told that athletes perform better when it's cold.
Is yours a proper training pool OP?

My Dani's a swimmer and this was the question I was going to ask.

So far he's said it's a competition between Swansea and ponds forge for the coldest place to swim 🤣

user375242 · 24/09/2022 20:42

I did Puddle Ducks with my youngest because it was the only place open post Covid and my toddler had barely been swimming at all because of lockdown, I was really shocked how warm the water was, it was like getting in a bath compared to the local Council pool. But there might be the odd lesson they'd apologise if the water felt cooler than usual because of whatever issue (it never did feel cold though). I'd definitely query it, or see if you can move your lesson with them to a different venue.

canonlydoblue · 24/09/2022 20:47

I would definitely expect it to be a comfortable temperature. The baby and parent swim lessons here are just under £6 for a half hour session and the pool is lovely and warm.

ivykaty44 · 24/09/2022 20:48

Op what temperature is the pool? It’s required to be

I think 28 for teaching children and 30 for babies

if it’s any lower the sessions need to be cancelled

EatYourVegetables · 24/09/2022 20:50

Ee pay £25 a month per child and the pool is warm.

For £60 I would expect someone to sort out my kids after swimming, argue with them about not having snacks in the shower, get them dried and dressed, brush and detangle my daughter’s hair, calm my daughter down after detangling her hair, and give them snacks. And get me a cappuccino while I wait to take them home.

ByTheGrace · 24/09/2022 20:50

Our local is cold because they prioritise the swimming squads, I remember warm water making us vomit if you really pushed on when I used to squad swim as a teen.
DD couldn't stand the cold, swimming lessons whilst learning isn't really the kind if exercise that gets you warm. So we paid for a swim school that used a local hydrotherapy pool which was warmer. I fork out for the gym now to swim in a warmer pool, pees me off that the local community pool panders to one section of the community.

ivykaty44 · 24/09/2022 20:51

That’s best practice not regulations

Lily7050 · 24/09/2022 20:51

@Freezinginthepool : has the provider promised warm pool?
I do not know where you are based, I have not seen such cheap prices in SW London.
When I was going to baby massage I heard some mothers were taking their babies to local council pool. Council pools do not offer 33 degrees C warm water but all places that specialize in baby swimming say the water is 33 degrees C.
I think people got carried away with athletes swimming. 20 months old babies are not athletes, they can barely follow simple instructions.