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To only see my family at family events? How often do you see your siblings?

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PeeAche2 · 23/09/2022 10:14

I only see my family at family events. Naturally these include Christmas and most of the birthdays that crop up throughout the year. But also we tend to have the odd get togethers throughout the year if I feel like it.
It probably totals around 15-20 meet ups per year, depending on what is going on.

I do not live in the same town as my family, but around 60 mins away by car.

I have found it difficult to increase this number of meet ups, because I don’t particularly rate my own parents. I had an unhappy childhood. I keep contact for the sake of my own children. I want them to have a fairly robust extended family experience, free of drama and family feuds. But I also maintain a distance and I don’t allow unsupervised overnights etc.

My siblings are 13 years younger than me and we don’t share the same father. They have echoed some of my issues with our parents in the past but overall they seem to have a better relationship, albeit one that I think is unhealthy as they spend almost all of their time together.

I believe that my family is enmeshed and that I am “on the outside”. By choice. I’m sure they’d subsume me if they could. Given this pop-diagnosis of mine, I have always dismissed the amount of time that they all spend together as not normal and not ever wondered whether I am too much in the other direction.

At family gatherings, I do acknowledge that I am usually the last to arrive and first to leave. But other than that, I think I put in a perfectly ordinary amount of face time by any functional family’s standards.

However, my family disagree and after a family conference this week (without me, obviously) have decided that they would prefer I sling my hook permanently. And so my sibling has sent me a long and vicious email, signed from all of them, calling me a “bitch” and telling me to do one because I don’t see them enough as it is. Enforced estrangement. Apparently I am also being removed from my parents’ will.

One reason cited by sibling is that I have only seen their almost 2 year old 10 times (they have apparently counted) since the child was born. I mean, they were born during the lockdown, so give a girl a break.

To be perfectly honest, although I do feel understandably upset, I won’t be held to ransom and I am more than content to accept their new terms. Seems a shame though. Although I’m not convinced my kids will be missing out, as no one in my family remembered their birthdays this year. 🤦🏻‍♀️

What does everyone else think?

15-20 appearances at family functions per annum… yay or nay?

Naturally, I do NOT think I am being unreasonable. But as you can probably gather from my tone, I have always taken a less than enthused attitude towards my family and I’m sure it shows so, in a way, they probably have a point.

OP posts:
10HailMarys · 23/09/2022 10:40

You're seeing them approximately every 2-3 weeks! I get on really well with my family and I don't see my siblings anything like as often as that. Maybe five times a year, something like that. And usually that's for family events.

Your family sound absolutely insane and yes, definitely enmeshed if they think seeing you 15-20 times a year isn't enough and have had a bloody family conference about it. They sound appalling.

CMOTDibbler · 23/09/2022 10:40

20 meetings a year? So nearly every 2 weeks? We have never seen family that much. Until my parents died I saw them every 8-10 weeks, my brother once a year, and DHs parents we saw more like 10-12 weeks, one brother twice a year, another one maybe 5.

I'd make the most of your new found time and spend it with your kids as your sibs etc don't seem bothered about seeing you - do they ever come to visit you?

TedMullins · 23/09/2022 10:41

15-20 meetings a year sounds like loads to me! That’s twice a month. They’re being weird. But if you don’t like them them (and you’re under no obligation to) then it sounds like you might be better off without them anyway

Onlyhuman123 · 23/09/2022 10:46

absolutely nothing wrong with the level of contact you've had with your family up until now...I see my parents 3 x per week currently but that's because of current health situation...prior to that, it was 1 x fort night ish . my sibling? I would see him once every couple of years if my visit to my parents happened to clash with his monthly visit. Now I never see him which I'm very pleased about.

Mollymoofer · 23/09/2022 10:48

They sound so weird! Better off without, OP. Sorry 💐

mamabear715 · 23/09/2022 10:49

I'm very sadfor you, it must cause more pain than you are showing, but on the other hand, @PeeAche2 I think you're maybe better off without them. :-(

caroleanboneparte · 23/09/2022 10:51

Wow I'm so sorry you have such a toxic family.

Seeing a 2yo that's an hour drive from you 10 times is absolutely loads!

She's a nasty x to call you names!

With the mention of wills it sounds like money is motivating this. (From them not you)

whoruntheworldgirls · 23/09/2022 10:52

I see my brother 2-3 times a year, dad and stepmum 4-5 times a year, mum and stepdad 5-6 times a year.
Your seeing your family a good amount!

AnnaMagnani · 23/09/2022 10:54

20 times a year!

DH is lucky if he manages to see a sibling once a year. And he's never gone for niece/nephew birthdays once they were past the age of 1. All the siblings are the same - and they actually like each other.

Give it up as a bad job, these people are adding nothing to your life or your children's lives.

WhatHaveIFound · 23/09/2022 10:56

My sister lives abroad so I don't see her that often but even when she was in the same country it was family birthdays & Christmas only. Maybe 6-8 times a year so you're doing a lot more that that.

I try to see my parents every couple of weeks but often work gets in the way and they can't drive to visit me.

It's sad what they're doing to you.

GoldenGorilla · 23/09/2022 10:58

You are seeing them more often than I see my sibling who lives ten minutes drive from me, and we have a close relationship. Life is busy. You have kids. Maybe a job as well. You are giving them a perfectly reasonable, normal amount of family time. If that’s not enough for them, then yes maybe you’re better off just cutting ties.

while it’s nice for your kids to have a large extended family, they are probably better off without this kind of conditional family love - they only like and value you when you do everything their way. It’s not healthy or normal.

PeeAche2 · 23/09/2022 11:00

Yeah, my family are toxic a-holes. Honestly, I feel like I see them way more than I would prefer to. If the choice is to see them a few times a week or to not ever see them again, it’s a no brainer.

My sister and her husband and their 2yo spend almost every day at my parents’ house. They regularly stay over. And my parents give them a lot of money so almost certainly financially driven. And it’s how my parents control everyone.

Fuck em. Thanks for the validation ❤️

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CornedBeef451 · 23/09/2022 11:03

I think that's an excessive amount!

I see my parents twice a month but that's because I really like them. DSister less than once a month and DBrother (now deceased) probably 4 times a year.

I think we're fairly close family!

LadybirdsAreNeverHappy · 23/09/2022 11:28

YANBU at all.
I have a complicated relationship with my family and I see them way less than you do.
I had a horrible upbringing. My parents have all sorts of problems and are extremely selfish.
At some point when we were all adults, they decided they wanted to start playing happy families.
My sisters and I went along with it, although I felt very confused and conflicted about pretending everything was fine and we were just a normal family and it made me really anxious to be around them.
When my dd was born, they became very overbearing. They bullied me and manipulated me into having them around all the time.
It was incredibly stressful and I never would’ve let it happen if I hadn’t been vulnerable.
They started to act like they did when I was a kid, arguing with each other and making everything about them. They had been divorced for years but the first time they visited me and my newborn dd they announced they were back together (they “broke up” again within 2 weeks).
It all came back to me. I realised they are never going to change. They only want a relationship with me (and my dd) for their own selfish reasons.
I asked them to leave one day and ignored their calls and texts until I decided what to do. Thankfully covid then hit and I didn’t have to see them much for the next couple of years. Once I did I set firm boundaries with them. They were pissed off at first but they learned to live with it.
Sorry for going on about my own experience but this hit a nerve.
Do your family understand why you don’t want to see them? You have two options. You could have it out with them and tell them exactly why you don’t want to see them or just cut them out.
I would cut mine out if they had a problem with me only wanting to see them at family occasions. I often skip occasions even really significant ones because I’ve learned I have to protect myself especially now I have a daughter. .I learned this the hard way and it took a very long time. I know it has annoyed and upset them especially my sisters but I think on some level they understand.
Anyway, you don’t owe them anything, not visits or explanations. Especially if they call you names and threaten you with cutting you out of their will and stuff. That is horrible behaviour.

girlfriend44 · 23/09/2022 17:54

Better off without them if they message you like that

alwaysmovingforwards · 23/09/2022 18:03

OP, they're being weird.

Get in we'll with my family, but see them probs 5-6 times a year!

Chevyimpala67 · 23/09/2022 18:04

Good fucking riddance!

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