If she does not meet the threshold then it would be unfair for her to have the adjustments. Just because a child is in the top set or academically gifted does not mean they don’t also have SEN. The children getting adjustments will have met the threshold for them.

YANBU to think some children’s parents and schools are unfairly advantaging them.

But then, you’ve bought an advantage for your daughter over some other children, so what’s fair and what’s not?

Would lowest 25% pass the 11+?

If she's in the bottom quarter then no I wouldn't put her through the exam.

Dts are dyslexic, very dyslexic. But conversely very academic. They got extra time in the SATS. I think it was six minutes. The extra time will never sort their shit spelling so we didn't put them for 11+.

If not want my child to go to a grammar if they are in the bottom quarter anyway, they'll struggle.

This seems a thinly veiled dig at those who qualify for extra time.

Worry about your own dd and not about other people's dc's.

I would be aimimg to look at a more specialist school which can support her needs more.

There has to be a cut off point somewhere for extra time. Dyslexia, ASD, and ADHD are all relatively common. Lots in one class could just be down to chance. 2 years is fairly up to date for dyslexia assessment. It's not about how much progress someone has made but about their inherent struggles with language, working memory and processing speed.

Yanbu. I suspect this something that can occur in the private sector - a (former) friend essentially opinion shopped for an ed psych report (costing a huge sum) that ticked the right criteria for extra time to be granted.

I know that recently in the state sector schools are seriously wising up to expensive private ed psych reports that seem to produce a diagnosis for any middle class child who's parents can afford them & are not granting concessions in most cases.

I've never yet heard of anyone come away from a private ed psych having been told their child simply isnt academically inclined.

Do you believe all these other kids are having the requirements skewed so the can get extra time?
Otherwise I don’t really understand your issue. If someone does meet the requirements for extra time based on a variety of factors then another child isn’t being disadvantaged by the playing field being levelled.

Parents are quite open about it
Why shouldn’t they be? There is no shame in dyslexia/ ADHD etc.

I don't really understand what you describe about your daughter's 'quite pronounced dyslexia' and then this not qualifying her for any access arrangements. I mean this genuinely, not being sarcastic. But my 12 year old was just assessed for dyslexia and had a very spiky profile - some areas she did very well in but the areas where there were deficits were quite pronounced.

My DD diagnostic assessment says she is entitled to min 30% extra time for exams, a small room and sympathetic marking for SPAG and her assessor described my DD as not having a 'full dyslexia profile." So I don't understand what you mean by 'quite pronounced'. What do you mean?

My DD's diagnosis from age 12 is valid throughout school, college, university and beyond. She isn't going to 'grow out' of her dyslexia as she advances through academia.

“Parents I spoke to today are submitting ed psych reports that are 2 years old”
Privately obtained reports no doubt. Again, just buying advantage as you are.
You can afford a small prep - so just continue to pay for the school that suits her best. Given her ability, that’s unlikely to be one demanding an 11+ pass.
So lucky you not to have to worry about the parents buying their way through the 11+ process. It’s unfair to sone children - but won’t impact yours.

And you are buying your privately educated child an advantage in the 11+ against a state school pupil. That's just life.

A lot of kids will have older diagnoses, the NHS doesn't reassess every year - my child's diagnosis is a few yrs old. She meets the threshold, there has to be a threshold somewhere.
Also as someone who attended a grammar school, I'd be wary of squeezing a very borderline child in, they would be better in the middle/top of a comp rather than at the bottom of a selective.

I mean this gently, but if she’s in the lower 25% academically, is the 11+ / grammar school really the best idea?

Would lowest 25% pass the 11+?

You have to ask lowest 25% of what? It might be possible for some in the lowest 25% of a selective cohort with particularly bright children to pass the 11+. Lowest 25% of pupils in a non-selective setting, not so likely.

Surely the 11 plus is designed to determine the top 25%? If your dd is in the lowest 25% why put her through the exam?
Dd3 was behind right through until last year primary when she got to average. Now she is in year 10 and has been assessed as being allowed 25% extra time, a word processor and a reading pen. She is set 2/6 for English and 3/6 for maths.

Dd is dyslexic so got extra time - her school arranged the testing - it's to level the playing field not advantage them. Dd1 also gets separate room, rest breaks and extra time due to various sen, again this is to ensure she has a chance to achieve what her teachers knew she could do (she still messed up 2 a levels because of panic attacks and dropped out of university once due to not being able to do online testing

Has your DD got a diagnosis of dyslexia? It's confusing from your post.

It's a complicated issue.
Extra time is only really helpful if there is a physical or educational reason for not finishing. Being dyslexic doesn't qualify you automatically, and it has to level the playing field, no one should have an advantage. Also if you don't have the knowledge no amount of extra time will help.
My eldest had rest breaks due to her physical disability and a laptop but most people would assume she wouldn't need it because she was in top set for everything.

You've already bought her an advantage with a small independent prep. If she isn't achieving academically despite this, then she probably isn't selective school material, if she doesn't have SN.

Find her a school where her talents and abilities will be recognised and celebrated. Maybe even, crazy thought, that she is amazing in her own way, a kind, generous person who makes the world a better place.

Are you talking about the 11+ or entrance testing for fee-paying schools?

I personally wouldn’t put a dyslexic child through the 11+ . . 2 of my sons are severely dyslexic and are dyscalculus too. The younger had no interest and is happy as a lark in early 20s with a practical job . Elder went and sat 11+? And was totally gutted at not passing . The school would not apply for extra time ect and this hung over him for a long time . He finished school git into uni without us getting an education plan from local authorities. They tested him and he was severely dyslexic!! Instantly given all the help he needed extra tutors scribes computers and computer programs . His life was transformed!! But for a long time he wouldn’t accept that he is actually way above average Intelligence ( also tested at uni ) the 11+ Can have far reaching consequences and thus younger child never sat it . And yes he has a degree in journalism!!!

You can only obtain these reports privately.