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To think people are losing the ability to resolve conflict

32 replies

Letthekidsplay · 19/09/2022 10:12

I’ve seen threads where so many people have been ‘ghosted’ or just dropped by a friend with no idea why.

Am I wrong to think this is a new thing and that in the past people would have resolved their issues and not been so scared to openly disagree or tell somebody why you’re upset?

It seems people expect life and friendships to be 100% perfect and easy and give up or ignore their friends I bateau of trying to fix things. Do people not invest in their friendships as much these days and want to resolve problems or is it just more noticeable because of social media and WhatsApp groups etc?

you are reasonable people have always acted this way

you are not unreasonable ghosting is a new phenomenon and people are far more flaky these days

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Blueberrywitch · 19/09/2022 14:28

I don’t know if it’s more common but I’ve been ghosted by a friend I really liked and it is honestly so painful. I wish she’d just had the conflict so I can know what I did wrong.

Blueberrywitch · 19/09/2022 14:34

Wouldloveanother · 19/09/2022 11:42

YANBU.

Growing up, my mum was like this - there were no shades of grey, either everyone agreed with her and behaved perfectly 100% of the time, or they were ghosted and the worst person ever.

I watched her lose nearly all her friends, family, end up in numerous awful neighbour disputes, quit a course she had been working on for 3 years because she was too proud to retake an exam and felt the marker ‘had it in for her’.

It was exhausting being around her as nobody could match her extremely narrow view of ‘acceptable behaviour’ and everything you did or said, she took as a slight.

I vowed never to be like this, to only cut people off if I felt I had no other choice, and to really try to see the best in people and their intent if they did something that irked me. As a result I have a close group of friends that’s I’ve had since I was 11, have never fallen out with a neighbour, and generally consider myself an easygoing person.

Mumsnet ‘friendships’ make me sad. That you should never ‘interfere’ or offer sincere advice, and instead take a sterile and neutral stance at all times. Posters seem to see friends more like ‘colleagues’, to be kept at a professional distance at all times, and you can simply cut them off if they do something to annoy you. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve seen ‘I’m glad you’re not my friend, OP’ or ‘find new friends’ like years of friendship count for nothing because of one
minor incident. Friendships on here seem very transactional.

So no YANBU. It doesn’t surprise me so many people claim to be lonely/friendless with this attitude.

totally agree. I think a lot of women who cycle through “besties” are like this as well. Somebody with a lot of old friends has the wisdom to stick by people and work through issues over time. It’s not always easy, but unless people are genuinely “toxic” there should be no reason to cut them out of your life.

I find the transactional approach to friendships very stressful and you always feel like you’ll do/say one wrong thing and then it’s over. Not great for someone with social anxiety. There is something magical about a friendship that has lasted through thick and thin that you know you can have a bad week or a bad year and still be loved, despite all your faults.

Burgoo · 19/09/2022 14:34

It's always been the case. Only difference is we now have social media, mobiles etc.

Also, people don't have the guts to just tell someone that they don't like an aspect of their behaviour. I never understand people who can't just say "I noticed X, I felt Y, please don't do X in the future because Z". Done. No drama, no hassle.
That said, it has to come from a compassionate place. If you don't want to speak with someone anymore just tell them. "You did X, I don't think I want to be associated with someone who would do that...goodbye".

It seems that drama happens, and people have to take "sides" etc. It's so petty and childish. If I have a group of friends and two of that group have a bust up, I'm not taking sides. I will see you both equally and if you don't like it then you can opt out. Simple.

MrsSchrute · 19/09/2022 14:35

Inklingpot · 19/09/2022 10:19

I don’t think it’s just friendships, it’s any contact with another person which may become difficult. Hence you get threads like ‘my neighbour shat in my garden but I’m petrified of conflict, how do I let them know it’s not ok?’

Not many people enjoy an argument but people seem to go to extreme lengths to avoid dealing with any issues.

Absolutely agree.
Drives me nuts when I read these long drawn out posts and think that this situation could have been solved so easily with a conversation!

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 19/09/2022 14:39

When people ghost friendships though there isnt often a conflict to be had. They just often realise they dont like that person any more have grown apart or something. Eg I have a friend (I havent ghosted but I'm not enjoying the friendship as I was) who is always negative and always jealous of others. It's not a new thing but has got worse over time. There is literally no point in bringing it up, it's a major part of her personality and she isnt going to change.

I do agree that people cant do conflict any more, they use name calling (eg 'woke' or 'sheeple') rather than logical argument

mamabear715 · 19/09/2022 14:39

I'm not 'down with the kids' lol, so not completely sure what ghosting (or gaslighting) is..
It might sound selfish, I love people but like my home to be a haven just for me & kids.. so I tend not to invite anyone here, I'll occasionally meet up with a friend but a lot seem to be like me & busy / otherwise occupied / can't always be bothered / easier to email / text / message!

bellac11 · 19/09/2022 14:45

The words and descriptions of the acts are new but the acts are not new, people have always cut off from someone over some grudge

But read a whole host of threads on this site, its full of 'go no contact' or 'I couldnt be friends with someone like that' every little thing that someone says which is bad or unnacceptable means the poster should cut off from them or 'challenge' them or they're livid or fuming or some such

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