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Why did the queens guards…..

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Kadj · 17/09/2022 21:43

Not move an inch when that man tried to get to the coffin?
Aren't they supposed to guard it?
Asking out of genuine curiosity as I had imagined they would of been first to move had anyone approached it.

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iamjustwinginglife · 17/09/2022 22:47

Because they didn't need to-the police had got it covered

Darkstar4855 · 17/09/2022 22:49

Because it’s the role of the police to deal with civilian crimes. The military are there in a largely ceremonial role.

CombatBarbie · 17/09/2022 22:55

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 17/09/2022 22:43

Their job is to guard the body. What if the guy was a decoy? The guards leap and leave the coffin and jewels exposed.

The police are there to deal with the public

The guy was a member of the public?

It is a vigil, not guarding the crown etc although that's what it looks like and with the terminology used in the media.

And you will notice that they are head down, so realistically it would only be seen out the corner of the eye from whoever is direct line of him approaching.

It's very much like the guards at Buckingham Palace, they don't move unless doing their ceremonial part. Same at Horseguards with the mounted horses. It's to show discipline.

Now if it were the police "guarding" I would expect them to move and deal with it. If one of the soldiers were to have restrained him, the man could quite easily demand the soldier be charged with assault. Same with all these barmy stories when burglars are attacked.

watcherintherye · 17/09/2022 22:57

I couldn’t help smiling at this description of the aftermath from an eyewitness, as reported by the DM.

The mourner, who did not wish to be named, described members of the public 'hysterically crying' and 'shaking' after the incident.

Must have been MNers!

Womencanlift · 17/09/2022 23:15

watcherintherye · 17/09/2022 22:57

I couldn’t help smiling at this description of the aftermath from an eyewitness, as reported by the DM.

The mourner, who did not wish to be named, described members of the public 'hysterically crying' and 'shaking' after the incident.

Must have been MNers!

Oh there was one woman on Sky with her daughter or niece after it happened with a token DM sad face and said the little girl got pushed out the way by the guy

Sky said they got to go in a second time (I guess in the “Holly and Phil fast track queue”) because their first time had been spoilt

Coffeenoww · 17/09/2022 23:26

The police have the powers to detain and arrest civilians, the soldiers do not amd are under orders to carry out a vidual, they are not permitted to move or indeed react. The Hall is full of uniformed officers, armed officers and I'm sure plenty of armed, plain clothed officers dispersed throughout the crowd.

Coffeenoww · 17/09/2022 23:27

Vigil not vidual

Mosso · 17/09/2022 23:30

There are loads of plain clothed coppers in there. It's not the soldier's job. They follow instructions.

StellaGibson2022 · 17/09/2022 23:30

Womencanlift · 17/09/2022 23:15

Oh there was one woman on Sky with her daughter or niece after it happened with a token DM sad face and said the little girl got pushed out the way by the guy

Sky said they got to go in a second time (I guess in the “Holly and Phil fast track queue”) because their first time had been spoilt

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Tell me more about the Holly and Phil fast track queue

Blinky21 · 17/09/2022 23:43

Why did they arrest him? Fine, usher him, out but arresting him is a bit heavy handed. You can't blame someone for going over the top when the media has whipped everyone into a grief frenzy and it's not like he could harm the queen

CaptainBarbosa · 18/09/2022 01:31

Blinky21 · 17/09/2022 23:43

Why did they arrest him? Fine, usher him, out but arresting him is a bit heavy handed. You can't blame someone for going over the top when the media has whipped everyone into a grief frenzy and it's not like he could harm the queen

Eh? I don't think any media outlet has encouraged mourners to approach a coffin and attempt to remove the belongings on top of it or topple the whole thing. Who knows what he was trying to do. But whatever it was, it was clearly wrong and clearly distressed everyone in the building. Who pounces on a coffin?!

But none the less, it was a public order offence, and under the Public Order Act for “behaviour intending to cause alarm, harassment or distress” he will be charged.

Silly silly man.

IsurviveonCoffeeandWinein2021 · 18/09/2022 01:36

Haven't read the full thread but soldiers cannot act on British soil unless there is a threat to their life.

I did not know this until last weekend (in Scotland) that's why there is so many police the military are there for a ceremonial purpose rather than defence.

halfsiesonapotnoodle · 18/09/2022 02:32

I can't cope with seeing or hearing any more fucking would of. It's would have or would've. It really does matter.

watcherintherye · 18/09/2022 08:25

halfsiesonapotnoodle · 18/09/2022 02:32

I can't cope with seeing or hearing any more fucking would of. It's would have or would've. It really does matter.

Random, but indisputable!

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Kadj · 18/09/2022 08:34

@halfsiesonapotnoodle

Apologies. 😂

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Copasetic · 18/09/2022 08:46

halfsiesonapotnoodle · 18/09/2022 02:32

I can't cope with seeing or hearing any more fucking would of. It's would have or would've. It really does matter.

I never bother saying it because the problem is too wide!

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