To expect neighbours to be respectful with noise?

[Onethirtythree]

I’m typing this as someone who lives in a small cul de sac that is generally quiet in the day time, but the last three years have been utterly miserable living next door to neighbours who have no consideration for noise whatsoever.
The boy next door is generally quiet in the daytime but between 5.30 and 6pm until nearly 9pm it’s a toss up really as to whether we’re getting hard footballs booted at our front door and car, or whether they are running around screaming or on their scooters.
I get kids have to be kids but my eldest is the same age and I would tell them if they couldn’t play quietly after 6pm then to come in.
Last week I went out and asked them to keep it down and their mum wasn’t happy I’d done that, but to be honest I was on the 7th trip up the stairs with a toddler being woken by screaming and Casey footballs being kicked at our property.
Is this disrespectful of them when they know we have a toddler to get to sleep or do I just need to get a grip.
It only seems to start at bedtime and I’m slowly losing my mind.
Im also waiting for brain surgery and just utterly fed up with the stress.

Balls directly and repeatedly banging against your door that’s unreasonable, ask they stop
otherwise in a small cul de sac yes you’ll experience noise
hope your surgery goes ok and you make a full recovery

Think 6pm is very early so unreasonable expecting quiet then. I would have said 8 or 9pm in the week, later at weekends.

Not unreasonable to not want the ball booted at your property, but couldn't you just knock and explain the noise of the ball disturbs you, can he do it somewhere else?

Either way, I wouldn't use the word disrespectful, more inconsiderate, but they're children and if they're awake you can't expect them to be silent. Perhaps the parents can't hear the ball if it's against your property?

Balls kicked into your property and cars is disrespectful. You've every right to be seriously annoyed.

Are you the same op from the other day but changed your story a little?🤔

Noise at 6PM of kids playing, absolutely fine & normal. Still going on at 9PM would be different.

But the balls being kicked at cars could be criminal damage & needs dealt with.

Footballs kicked at your car and property is unreasonable at any time of day.

But general loud playing outside 6 - 9 p.m. is OK i think.

Basketball, wasn't it?

Unfortunately this type of culture seems to have spread out from being limited to rough areas. I don’t think you will be able to do much about general noise but I would speak to the parents about footballs being kicked at your and car, that needs to stop. Ever had any damage? A camera and taking a bill over to the neighbour whenever it’s caused would help.

I wondered that too ZeroFuchsGiven

put cameras up

It seems as though neighbours no longer give a f*ck anymore. My next door neighbour (in a flat) plays music on some sort of loud speaker with a bass that vibrates through the whole building - do they care - no. Do they make any attempt to keep it down - no. I used to always be the one tot ry and keep the peace with neighbours, and be reasonable by keeping the noise down as much as practicle - ie. not playing loud music at social times, same with washing machine - no diy at unsocial times. No one else boters- so I'm now of the opinion, if you can't beat them join them. It's taken me a very long time to reach that stage though.

I think exactly this ^^

(I'm basing this on balls being kicked with force, deliberately and repeatedly, not the occasional ball that goes off target and happens to roll into your car tyre/front step accidentally, which is no big deal)

No I’m not the same person. I just wouldn’t dream of letting my kids do that when they have all day to play or whatever but the parents really don’t seem to care.
Im sat on rightmove at the mo but I think it’s just luck of the draw really in getting good neighbours isn’t it. 🥴

We have spent the last two weeks mostly driving little one round in the car to get her to sleep because the week before it took hours at bedtime with all the noise.

Which we of course can’t continue doing

If its normal every day noise which is what it sounds like apart from the ball being kicked directly into your property yabu. 6-9pm is not unsociable hours and there is no need to ask them to be quiet.

Babies adapt, hopefully yours well too. if they're tired enough they will sleep!

It’s top of your voice screaming and running around on our driveway past 8pm at night which I didn’t consider to be normal everyday noise.
And of course the footballs hitting the front door and car.

You need to go and knock on their door and explain you're soon due brain surgery and see if you can appeal to the parents better nature. If that doesn't work get a big fucking dog and keep it in your front garden from 6 til 9pm.

This.

So a child is getting out of school, doing their homework and then playing out until it gets dark. Sounds fairly normal. You can't expect him not to play because you have a toddler, and I doubt he knows you're due surgery.

It's not ok to kick a football against your door or car, but otherwise, he's as entitled to live his life as you. It'll get dark & cold soon so probably a short-lived problem.

OP have you tried a white noise machine to get her to sleep. My neighbours are a bit antisocial with their evening DIY and I find it works well for DD.

6pm, jeez how uptight

Can he do it somewhere else - like against his own door. I think OP is being very reasonable by not telling them to " off over there and when you get there off again"