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To consider moving because kids found woman passed out on crack?

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DrugsWorry · 16/09/2022 21:08

In the park earlier this week, my DS and some friends (all 7/8) found a man who was passed out on crack (he had a crack pipe, so it was crack).

We phoned an ambulance, dealt with it, told the kids a fib, but I am deeply freaked out by it and am even willing to consider moving house. Drug dealing is becoming more open and prevalent in our neighbourhood in London and I am increasingly feeling that I don’t want my kids growing up around it.

I’ve lived in London all my life and have never seen anything like this.

YABU = this is part of urban living, suck it up.
YANBU = get out of there.

OP posts:
Sapphire387 · 17/09/2022 13:14

I've lived in London my whole life.

Honestly don't see why it's worse to have someone passed out with crack than the countless people up and down the country who fall out of pubs paralytic with alcohol.

I think there are a lot of 'town centres' in various parts of the country that are run down and full of people behaving like this.

London feels safe to me, by comparison.

MarshaBradyo · 17/09/2022 13:17

BerriesOnTop · 17/09/2022 13:05

I’ve lived in U.K., Aus and US - all wealthy nations, and drug use has been an issue

This isn’t an issue in Singapore …

I’ve only visited not lived there so can’t really use my experience, but yes you could live in Singapore to avoid it, if you don’t already

It won’t be true of all wealthy nations, but the ones I listed are wealthy . There’s a common thread of individualism that runs through the three and other similarities. Which won’t be the case in other countries

Florenz · 17/09/2022 16:04

When I was a kid walking to school I used to try to avoid stepping on the cracks on the pavement. Today's kids walking to school have to avoid stepping on the crackheads on the pavement. It's depressing.

dandelionthistle · 17/09/2022 21:46

WobblyLondoner · 17/09/2022 09:59

Oh off you trot! I call BS, honestly!! 🥱

OP I totally recognise this. I live in north London, the less well to do part of Haringey. I've not seen exactly what you describe but I could easily imagine it happening. See regular deals, last week a couple smoking crack on the pavement with a coat over their head, huddles of incredibly unwell looking addicts on corners waiting for their man etc.

I don't know what the answer is. A lot of what we've now got is the result of more police attention being focused elsewhere, and so the addicts and dealers move on - in our case to my area. But all we can really do is try and get attention focused on where we are in the hope it becomes someone else's problem. Hopeless really.

It's the one thing that would make me move as I otherwise love where we are but it's not the right time for a move so I'm just hoping it gets better and doing what I can to make that happen.

I was going to reply to that post with a very similar answer Grin Not unusual to see passed out (or sometimes just v drowsy, if we're going to be pedantic) crackheads - complete with helpful identifying crack pipe - in many parts of Tottenham, Edmonton, Finsbury Park and Holloway, just for starters.

Crack use IME is highly localised (users will buy it and then take it as quickly as possible, so as close to the crackhouse as they can get away with) so the problem will be very prevalent on some roads and barely visible a couple of streets away. So sure, you can walk around all of those areas without ever spotting one (and other than probably Edmonton, all the areas i mentioned also have houses going for £1m+ these days), but that doesn't change the reality that the experience OP describes is not that shocking to many of us, much less unbelievable.

dandelionthistle · 17/09/2022 21:49

Sapphire387 · 17/09/2022 13:14

I've lived in London my whole life.

Honestly don't see why it's worse to have someone passed out with crack than the countless people up and down the country who fall out of pubs paralytic with alcohol.

I think there are a lot of 'town centres' in various parts of the country that are run down and full of people behaving like this.

London feels safe to me, by comparison.

There's less petty/violent crime to enable pub-goers to buy their poison though surely? vs crack?

I've also lived in London my whole life (and my family, as far back as I know), and I suppose I'm ambivalent about it, but when I'm watching from my window I definitely feel less perturbed by the drunks leaving the pub than by the addicts leaving the crackhouse!

RetreatRetreatRetreat · 19/09/2022 10:20

Softplayhooray · 17/09/2022 10:56

The high lasts around 10 mins max then you get a horrific crash. That's why it's so addictive.

Passing out, crashed out, slumped in a doorway, etc, is a common sight with crackheads. That's why they get do desperate for more. If you just got stimulated then it wore off and you thought 'oo lovely, now on with my day' then we wouldn't have a crack addiction problem.

Actually you are wrong. Crack cocaine works on the synapses in the brain affecting dopamine release and reuptake. Put simply, it makes your brain release all your dopamine in one large dose rather than gradually as is normal. It then blocks the reuptake receptors that normally reabsorb the dopamine so that you can reuse it. The effect lasts up to 24 hours. The crash comes from having no dopamine available as you've used it all up and it's not being reabsorbed, so you feel miserable, it doesn't tend to make you pass out.

HRTQueen · 19/09/2022 10:37

Crack can make people feel absolutely drained of energy. So slouching around, falling into a deep asleep easily that they appear unconscious isn’t unusual and may have been used with other drugs

so can well believe this happened

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