AIBU?
Give me strength, the NHS is on its knees and Therese Coffey issues this.....
DevaleraSpawnOfSatan · 15/09/2022 12:15
Clavinova · 15/09/2022 21:49
Worriedaboutethics
vote for these brexiteer tories
Therese Coffey originally campaigned for remain of course -
www.eadt.co.uk/news/mp-branded-a-traitor-many-times-over-the-eu-2270492
walkingonsunshinekat
she had a far more lenient and crass boss
Parliament’s commissioner for standards suspended Liam Byrne - not Keir Starmer.
When Luciana Berger was being bullied by members of Labour's Liverpool Wavertree branch, Starmer originally stated that the branch should not be suspended. Starmer's wife is Jewish - I assume he was too weak to speak up in 2019.
ReeseWitherfork · 16/09/2022 01:33
wigywhoo · 15/09/2022 14:01
Right, this is being blown out of all proportion by people with an axe to grind.
I am a civil servant, when a new Minister is appointed we receive guidance on how the line their briefing prepared etc. all
Involving things like this. Ministers of all colours do this. It will have been shared with her last department too. It's been leaked to cause political damage which is shameful and against the Civil Service Code.
Really glad you’ve said this. I was trying to work out how anyone could send such comms to “the NHS”. It’s not one big organisation with a company wide mailing list.
Clavinova · 16/09/2022 10:35
Truss was also a Remainer, but then has also been a Liberal and Republican - so basically isn’t really sure about a lot of things. Oh and fracking.
Fracking?
Fracking is 'not evil', says Ed Davey. (2013)
UK energy secretary claims fracking for shale oil or gas is 'not the evil thing that some people try to make it out to be '
www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/sep/05/fracking-not-evil-ed-davey
Alexandra2001 · 16/09/2022 17:28
ReeseWitherfork · 16/09/2022 01:33
Really glad you’ve said this. I was trying to work out how anyone could send such comms to “the NHS”. It’s not one big organisation with a company wide mailing list.
wigywhoo · 15/09/2022 14:01
Right, this is being blown out of all proportion by people with an axe to grind.
I am a civil servant, when a new Minister is appointed we receive guidance on how the line their briefing prepared etc. all
Involving things like this. Ministers of all colours do this. It will have been shared with her last department too. It's been leaked to cause political damage which is shameful and against the Civil Service Code.
It doesn't matter who she sent it to, her priority should be staffing, morale, social care and reducing the huge length of time people are waiting for treatment, some folk have had to give up work.
If you are correct and new ministers waste time with sort of thing, its no surprise so little gets done in Govt.
wigywhoo · 16/09/2022 18:18
@Alexandra2001 - my point is she has wasted no time on it, and it will have been transferred from her last department. First she heard about it in relation to her new role is when the "story" broke. It's easy to score cheap shots about the administrative side of things but it's the basis of smooth governance.
Alexandra2001 · 16/09/2022 18:59
wigywhoo · 16/09/2022 18:18
@Alexandra2001 - my point is she has wasted no time on it, and it will have been transferred from her last department. First she heard about it in relation to her new role is when the "story" broke. It's easy to score cheap shots about the administrative side of things but it's the basis of smooth governance.
Presumably someone did? or has spent time on this...
How does it aid smooth governance?
Of course she is going to say "first i ve heard of it" but it seems v weird stuff like this is sent out in her name without her knowing.
Its certainly not a cheap shot to be critical of a Government (and wondering what they actually do) who after 12 years have left the NHS in a total mess & it was a mess pre CV too
deviatedseptum · 16/09/2022 22:14
This reply has been deleted
This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.
Ladyofthelake53 · 19/09/2022 22:05
Pathetic why doesn't she look at all the money the NHS wastes like stupid walkie talkies in each department in case of a terrorist lockdown or supplying £12 birthday cakes to patients or 1000s of pounds worth of equipment that never gets used. Brand new dentistry departments that have never been used etc etc
QuebecBagnet · 19/09/2022 22:12
Ladyofthelake53 · 19/09/2022 22:05
Pathetic why doesn't she look at all the money the NHS wastes like stupid walkie talkies in each department in case of a terrorist lockdown or supplying £12 birthday cakes to patients or 1000s of pounds worth of equipment that never gets used. Brand new dentistry departments that have never been used etc etc
Those walk-in talkies do get used. I’ve known the whole phone system in the hospital go down at least 3x in the last decade at the hospital where I work, for a considerable length of time. If your phones aren’t working and someone has a cardiac arrest, other emergency, or just needs a doctor review, etc it’s kind of useful to have a method of communication.
saraclara · 19/09/2022 23:28
Manekinek0 · 15/09/2022 21:20
Ah yes. Lets get rid of the usage in a setting where plenty of specialities and trusts have "and" in them. And of course get rid of the jargon that has evolved to be used in the NHS. What could go wrong?
No-one is suggesting that. The civil servants in this thread have explained already that this has been totally misrepresented, and only applies within her govt department for briefing notes. And the CS actually ASKED her to let them know her preferences. So she did.
BakeOffIsBack · 20/09/2022 14:53
@Clavinova
Ohhhh a policitian says fracking is safe. What a relief, must be true.
Or
You might want to do some reading from a variety of sources that’s not a single article from 2013 by a politician.
Several (actual experts) have given evidence stating quite the reverse. And even if it doesn’t cause earthquakes or pollute the water basin we just have to wait, what , around 10 years to get some gas. Jolly good.
Clavinova · 20/09/2022 15:21
BakeOffIsBack
You might want to do some reading from a variety of sources that’s not a single article from 2013 by a politician.
I chose Ed Davey for a reason - in answer to a specific post. Perhaps you should read up on his latest comments if you want to feel more informed.
BakeOffIsBack · 20/09/2022 16:57
I don’t feel the need to be more informed by someone who:
- is not a trained scientist
- was a politician
- lobbied for EDF energy
- is on the board of an energy fund and other private energy firms with obvious conflicts of interest
- has been embroiled in scandals around parliamentary second jobs
Not what you’d called objective.
Clavinova · 20/09/2022 19:44
BakeOffIsBack
I don’t feel the need to be more informed
I feel the need to inform you;
August 2022
Lib Dem leader [Ed Davey] says party will run on anti-fracking platform against Conservatives in by-elections and at next general election.
One thing we can agree on though - neither of us like Ed Davey.
To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.