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Early abortions are dangerous?

43 replies

ShallowHalle · 11/09/2022 09:01

Are abortions dangerous?

If you only have the pill one? Wondering if its safe to do more than pnce.

Thanks

OP posts:
whumpthereitis · 11/09/2022 10:02

No, early abortion is a very safe procedure. To put it in perspective, getting your tonsils removed is 1200 times riskier. You will be fine OP.

IhateHermioneGranger · 11/09/2022 10:09

LatteCappucino · 11/09/2022 09:40

It’s very very complicated in my case. I actually had a forced abortion as a teen. I saw those people outside the clinic - it traumatised me. I was taken repeatedly until I gave in and it was not early but that stage. I was damaged by my abuser and also the system that allowed it as I was vocal and clear I was not consenting - this is why I’m anti abortion - I would never have one again myself. I would never push these views into others and I’m lucky that my family and very close friends the few who know - although not sharing the same views respect mine .

My daughters absolutely know if they needed an abortion that I would be by their side supporting , they know about my past , they know my stance yet they know my love for them and my respect for them to have bodily autonomy and choices would mean that they have my full support. That extends to anyone I would never tell someone they are wrong . Me not agreeing with abortion is not something I’d push into others but I can’t honestly say I’m pro choice as that wouldn’t be true but I’d always respect others

I am so sorry. That sounds awful.

ShallowHalle · 11/09/2022 10:11

I am mainly worried about hormones and the effect of the body as in with the contraveptive pill? I suffered years with side affects from contraceptive pills and the injection.

Had really horrible luck. Ended up in A&E after having coil fitted.

Does the abortion pill use those similar synthetic hormones? 🙁

OP posts:
RocketPanda · 11/09/2022 10:16

OP if hormonal contraception/ coil doesn't suit then condoms is your answer. The cycle method is just guessing and crossing your fingers.

RocketPanda · 11/09/2022 10:19

Contraceptive pills/ injections are a continuous supply of synthetic hormones and that's probably why you suffered side effects.

whumpthereitis · 11/09/2022 10:41

ShallowHalle · 11/09/2022 10:11

I am mainly worried about hormones and the effect of the body as in with the contraveptive pill? I suffered years with side affects from contraceptive pills and the injection.

Had really horrible luck. Ended up in A&E after having coil fitted.

Does the abortion pill use those similar synthetic hormones? 🙁

Mifeprestone is a synthetic steroid that blocks progesterone, the hormone that supports the pregnancy. Most pills contain either progesterone, estrogen, or a comination of both. They are different medications.

There will be an effect on your hormones because of the pregnancy interruption, but not in the same way as with contraceptive pills/injections. The pregnancy hormones diminish quickly after an abortion, and will return to normal.

It really is a very safe treatment, but if you’re worried you can always talk to your providers, or even request a surgical abortion.

Testina · 11/09/2022 10:44

ShallowHalle · 11/09/2022 09:11

Im having a second abortion this year.! I was using the cycle method and it obviously has badly failed. Sounds horrible but I have to have this done..there is just no way I could keep this.

The cycle method hasn’t failed. It isn’t really a method. That’s like saying withdrawal method failed. You need to get advice on proper methods.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 11/09/2022 10:45

Abortion is a medical procedure so yes it carries some risks. Being pregnant is also inherently more dangerous than not being, though.

Testina · 11/09/2022 10:46

You had a thread deleted yesterday, didn’t you?

EveningOverRooftops · 11/09/2022 10:58

LatteCappucino · 11/09/2022 09:20

Because I am and everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would never push my views on others though and I understand the medical facts etc as I’ve explained here on this thread. I’m not religious at all, I don’t really speak much about this apart from somewhere anonymous such as MN. It is my personal opinion and I am anti abortion

So you have the ‘right’ way to express your views.

you’re against it and wouldn’t have one yourself but are OK to let other women choose the path for them?

I think it’s a reasonable stance.

I know a Mormon lady who is for religious reasons anti abortion, however she supports the rights of women to access abortion because it’s of benefit to society as a whole that it’s legal and safe.

ShallowHalle · 11/09/2022 11:29

Well this is the method I use. I believe it is an actual contraceptive method? Or am I wrong?
As you can see its 93% effective on par with the contraceptive pill.

Didnt really want to make this comment but I co conceived my first whilst on the depo provera injection!

Early abortions are dangerous?
OP posts:
LatteCappucino · 11/09/2022 11:31

EveningOverRooftops · 11/09/2022 10:58

So you have the ‘right’ way to express your views.

you’re against it and wouldn’t have one yourself but are OK to let other women choose the path for them?

I think it’s a reasonable stance.

I know a Mormon lady who is for religious reasons anti abortion, however she supports the rights of women to access abortion because it’s of benefit to society as a whole that it’s legal and safe.

Yes exactly that because I feel so deeply that I had my right to a choice ripped away from means I would never ever do that to anyone else. I have daughters and it’s so important at to me that they can choose if ever they need to. My personal opinion is just that , personal

RocketPanda · 11/09/2022 12:05

If you are having sex you run the risk of getting pregnant. If you are having unprotected sex you are highly likely to get pregnant.

CredibilityProblem · 11/09/2022 12:23

Even if those figures are right, a seven percent pregnancy rate each year is really high, so it’s not surprising that you’d end up needing more than one abortion over the course of your reproductive life.

Your available options would seem to be copper coil or rigorously used condoms, which improves the efficiency a lot: most of those 13% annual pregnancies while “using condoms” were caused by not actually using them every time.

Yes you will get some temporary side effects from medical abortion pills but they’re a drop in the ocean compared to the tsunami of pregnancy hormones, and certainly not “dangerous” if used as designed under medical supervision.

pointythings · 11/09/2022 14:04

an interesting article about Natural Cycles
which suggests it is not recommended for people who really don't want to get pregnant.

NumberTheory · 11/09/2022 15:07

ShallowHalle · 11/09/2022 11:29

Well this is the method I use. I believe it is an actual contraceptive method? Or am I wrong?
As you can see its 93% effective on par with the contraceptive pill.

Didnt really want to make this comment but I co conceived my first whilst on the depo provera injection!

I can see that a temperature assisted rhythm method could be significantly less prone to unintended pregnancy than one that doesn’t use temperature. I had a bit of a search around the websites for what they have backing up that data and it’s not hugely reassuring. They quote from Contraceptive Technology apparently relying on this table:
www.datocms-assets.com/21281/1662539230-contraceptive-technologies_failure-rates-table-2018.pdf

Which gives typical use failure rates as 8 in 100 over a year, however, it caveats with:
About 80% of segments of FABM use in the 2006-2010 NSFG were reported as calendar rhythm. Specific FABM methods are too uncommonly used in the U.S. to permit calculation of typical use failure rates for each using NSFG data; rates pro- vided for individual methods are derived from clinical studies. The Ovulation and TwoDay methods are based on evaluation of cervical mucus. The Standard Days method avoids intercourse on cycle days 8 through 19. Natural Cycles is a fertility app that requires user input of basal body temperature (BBT) recordings and dates of menstruation and optional LH urinary test results. The Symptothermal method is a double-check method based on evaluation of cervical mucus to determine the first fertile day and evaluation of cervical mucus and temperature to determine the last fertile day.

So there is no direct reference to the studies used to determine this rate. No indication of how many women were enrolled, what the selection criteria was or who funded the research (which matters, sadly). There is no way Natural Cycles doesn’t know what research has been done on their method so this seems deliberate.

Some women have a really hard time finding a contraceptive method that works for them. Doubling up (i.e. using condoms too) can help, but a long candid chat with someone at a women’s health clinic might be your best bet to understand all your options. I would also advocate for considering how to change your sex life so it doesn’t revolve around traditional intercourse as much. In the meantime, try not to worry too much. Abortion, even multiples abortions in a year, often has some short term side effects but does not hold significant risk of long term harm. It’s good that it’s available to us.

YellowTreeHouse · 11/09/2022 15:11

ShallowHalle · 11/09/2022 11:29

Well this is the method I use. I believe it is an actual contraceptive method? Or am I wrong?
As you can see its 93% effective on par with the contraceptive pill.

Didnt really want to make this comment but I co conceived my first whilst on the depo provera injection!

You are wrong. It is not a method of contraception, it is nothing more than hopes and wishes.

If you actually don’t want a baby you need to use contraception.

titchy · 11/09/2022 15:16

ShallowHalle · 11/09/2022 11:29

Well this is the method I use. I believe it is an actual contraceptive method? Or am I wrong?
As you can see its 93% effective on par with the contraceptive pill.

Didnt really want to make this comment but I co conceived my first whilst on the depo provera injection!

Yes very wrong. That source is from a website that promotes cycle monitoring so it's hardly unbiased. And given that it's failed you twice in 8 months it clearly isn't working for you.

You need either progesterone only pill, iud, or barrier and spermicide methods.

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