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Friend always wants to stay over

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FireworksDisplay · 10/09/2022 20:50

I have a friend I’ve known about four years. We get on brilliantly, but we’re more drinking buddies then extremely close BFFs. We go out dancing every once in a while, or we sit in my garden long summer evenings chatting away and listening to music.

The thing is, she always wants to stay over. Once, she plonked herself on my couch and said she was too tired to go home and she was sleeping right there. The thing is, she’s a heavy drinker (she said she wet herself once), and my couch is quite delicate. The likelihood of it slim, but can’t stop thinking of that whenever she asks. We live in London and the different forms of transport that could get her home are almost limitless.

I just generally don’t like people being at my place for long periods of time, I’ve had my fingers burnt with a couple of snoopers, one of them is my mother!

She always does this, including just the other night, she plonked herself on my bed and said she wasn’t going anywhere. I laughed it off and playfully dragged her off and said I was tired and needed sleep. She was pouting and I think was genuinely down about being asked to leave.

I might consider letting her stay once in a while if she kept in her lane, but she’s spoken of crashing with me for a days at a time, also inviting her various dates to my place, and I don’t know them from Adam! Neither does she! Maybe she thinks my place is a public lounge? This was a no of course. She knows not to ask now.

She is a very sweet outgoing fun girl, and would do anything for anyone, one of the nicest people I know, and I value her friendship and company, but her lifestyle is a bit wild for me and I don’t want to get sucked into all of that. I do still want her to visit for a fun catch up occasionally.

How do I get her to stop asking without hurting her feelings? I don’t want to lie.

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Brigante9 · 10/09/2022 23:11

I think a conversation is in order. Do it away from your house and tell her ydont want overnight guests. No need to explain or give details, just tell her she can't stay in future so she doesn't get into her head the idea of overnights.

VeronicaFranklin · 10/09/2022 23:15

I'm quite a homebody and like my own space but I have a best friend who is like this, she can literally sleep anywhere, doesn't have that sentimental attachment to home like I do. I find it strange but some people are like that.

I found I had to create boundaries with her to ensure she didn't assume she could always stay over at mine etc.

It's not just the entertaining all night, it's the next day waiting for them to wake up/have brekkie and go home! I always have things I need to do etc and can't do with waiting around for people to go home or tip toeing around my own home!

CuriousMama · 10/09/2022 23:17

US person wasn't a friend.

Animalism · 10/09/2022 23:26

FireworksDisplay · 10/09/2022 22:44

Even out of town don’t get to stay. Had a friend from the USA wanting to stay for 10 days. I told her I would be happy to play tour guide all day everyday but wouldn’t be able to host. It would have been her first trip to London, so it would have been a treat to have a local tour guide willing to devote lots of time to you and ferry you about, I thought. She stopped speaking to me.

Fair enough, it actually makes it easier to.say if you don't enjoy any overnight guests at all. I suppose the last bit was me projecting slightly!

VictoriaConcordiaCrescit · 10/09/2022 23:44

Stop inviting her over, it couldn't be more simple

Aubriella · 10/09/2022 23:51

YANBU at all, you’ve been very wise not opening the door to her staying the night and dragging her off your bed.

Give an inch and she will take a mile!

Keep saying no.

ClaryFairchild · 11/09/2022 00:46

She's using the overnights as a way of escaping her mother, because she's had no luck getting her own space back for herself.

SianNotAMan · 11/09/2022 00:51

FireworksDisplay · 10/09/2022 21:21

Her mum became fed up of various people in their home staying for days and being up all night and all the rest of it, but the house actually belongs to my friend, she is respecting her mother’s wishes. She’s a very sweet girl, just has a slightly wild streak.

Why do you care whether her mother’s happy or not? It’s completely reasonable to go to your friend’s and have a drink there or in her garden.

It’d be different if there wasn’t this issue about overstaying, but as there is, start going there.

SarahDippity · 11/09/2022 00:57

I’d have no qualms at all about saying ‘I’ve called you a taxi/Uber - night, now, I need my own space to wind down.’

Tiani4 · 11/09/2022 04:56

Yanbu

Doesn't sound like you need to change anything except have a word with her being clear that nobody stays at yours

" I Enjoy our evenings..
No one stays at my place..
No one sleeps on my sofa..
Just thought I'd make that clear as you've said it a few times after a few drinks! I know you're joking as your place isn't far where you have your own bed"

Also if when you want her to go home you say those magic words
"Time to go home now .. It's been a lovely evening, but I'm heading to bed - I'll get your shoes"

Tiani4 · 11/09/2022 05:00

Say "no one stays at mine" when she is sober before end of evening. Once you've said it a few times it should sink in

I think she knows this already though because you haven't let her stay so far and also the way she 'asks' when drunk (I'll just sleep where I am..)

Also don't let her stay even one night
She sounds like someone who would take the mickey
She has her own perfectly good house to sleep at

So the moment she says she's getting tired or wants to sleep where she is, respond "it's time for you to go home now then"

Musicalmaestro · 11/09/2022 05:39

Have the conversation when she is sober that you don’t like anybody staying over. She can’t take it personally then.

Zonder · 11/09/2022 06:11

Meet at a bar near hers next time. Have a fun evening then at the end say right I'm off now, see you next time.

You don't have to do this every time and can still have her sit in your garden sometimes although it's getting a bit cold and wet for that now so good chance to break the habit by not being in your area.

But actually personally I'd probably let a drink friend stay too on a plastic sheet but I wouldn't want them hanging around in the morning at all.

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/09/2022 06:16

I think a sober conversation that you do not like anyone staying over and that she should be allowed to have guests in her own home as long as she is respectful of her mum sleeping. Suggest you go to her house next time and you will get an Uber around 11pm.

Festoonlights · 11/09/2022 06:28

You need to practice being more assertive both before meeting up (setting the boundary) and reinforcing once you are with her.

'I can meet at 2pm friend, but we need to finish at 6pm, and I can't have anyone staying tonight - so lets plan how you are getting home now'

'Time to go now friend it has been lovely seeing you, I have an early start tomorrow, uber or black cab?' and mean it.

I have had friends like this, you need to be much firmer.

Festoonlights · 11/09/2022 06:29

The US friend was just using to save thousands in hotel costs, and was never a friend in the first place.

justfiveminutes · 11/09/2022 06:38

I do think it's a bit strange to be honest. My single friends, if invited to someone's house in the evening to have a drink, would expect to stay over or at least be invited to. In rl I don't know anyone who wouldn't be happy to have a friend stay overnight. If your friend is happy to have friends staying at her house, and if her other friends are the same, it may seem like unusual behaviour to her.

But it's your house and you're allowed to have that rule, and it sounds as if you've made it clear. As she seems to be persistent, I think you'll have to avoid seeing her in those situations. Stick to meeting in other places for now.

LuciferRising · 11/09/2022 06:40

Are you sure she doesn't want more than friendship?

W0tnow · 11/09/2022 06:40

“I love you, but it’s late and I’m officially kicking you out!” followed by a hug, was always my go-to line when required.

DFOD · 11/09/2022 06:44

Personally I wouldn’t have an issue with someone staying over - but would spending a one to one evening where the other person is so much more shit-faced than me.

That sounds tedious and lonely.

Greenfinch7 · 11/09/2022 06:51

In defence of the US friend, and speaking from her point of view... if I had someone I considered a friend in a foreign country, and I was planning to come for a visit, I would be surprised and hurt not to be wanted as an overnight guest, at least for a night or two.

Festoonlights · 11/09/2022 07:09

Greenfinch7 · 11/09/2022 06:51

In defence of the US friend, and speaking from her point of view... if I had someone I considered a friend in a foreign country, and I was planning to come for a visit, I would be surprised and hurt not to be wanted as an overnight guest, at least for a night or two.

The US friend wanted to say for TEN nights. Most people could not face that, no matter how good a friend they were. We have to work, get groceries, pay bills - it is not a holiday for the host, hosting for ten days is simply out of the question for most people.

Greenfinch7 · 11/09/2022 07:24

Festoonlights that's why I said: 'at least for a night or two'. It is possible to say: 'I'm so sorry I can't invite you for the whole time because my flat is tiny, but it would be great to have you for the first night (or two nights) if you can get an air b and b after that.'

I do think it is possible to stay with a friend without selfishly taking over their schedule, eating their food, drinking too much, and sleeping late. A guest can buy groceries, and be sensitive about when to get out of the host's hair, when to offer to babysit, and when to cook or clean.

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