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Changing for PE

132 replies

Flymetothezoom · 09/09/2022 18:14

My 7 year old son used to wear his PE kit to school on PE days. Now the school has said they want children to change in the classroom again. Parents have complained that their kids don’t want to do this. The head has sent a letter saying that:

”I understand that some parents and children are a little worried about changing into their PE kits in front of their peers. As this is something that we regularly did prior to Covid, we would like to bring back this process as part of a normal school activity.”

Why should children have to get used to changing in front of each other and their teachers? This isn’t a life skill. It is archaic and weird. As an adult I have never had to change with 26 men and women, in a room with many uncovered windows. Would I be wrong to write to the head and complain about this?

YABU: kids should change in front of each other and the teacher
YANBU: it is odd that it was ever allowed even before covid.

OP posts:
LMCOA · 09/09/2022 18:44

If any child of mine told me that they didn't want to take their clothes off in front of other people then they wouldn't be taking their clothes off in front of other people. That would be the end of it.

I'm not teaching my kids about body awareness and their right to privacy for them to be made to get undressed in front of peers/teachers.

Creepymanonagoatfarm · 09/09/2022 18:44

Presumably all the dc wil be wearing underwear? Do people never see them in swimwear?

emergencyblimp · 09/09/2022 18:45

it really does seem mumsnetters live in another world to me

noclothesinbed · 09/09/2022 18:45

They arnt adults though are they. Honestly I really feel for teachers these days why do parents have to object to everything it must Make their job so difficult having to battle every rule. Just do what the school tell you to do it's not hard. Your child is not that precious

ClocksGoingBackwards · 09/09/2022 18:45

There’s nothing wrong with children in year 2 or 3 getting changed together in their classrooms.

1994girl · 09/09/2022 18:46

YABU. I'm 28; When I was in primary school we used to get changed in front of each other for PE. I've never heard of going to school in PE Kit. I don't see it being a problem.

Slushycuppa · 09/09/2022 18:47

SpongeBob2022 · 09/09/2022 18:24

The 'wear your PE kit on PE day' rule was the best thing to come out of school lockdown!

Our school have kept it so far. Regardless of the modesty issue described above it makes complete sense to me. It's easier all round and saves time and things going missing.

I am a rule follower and wouldn't flout them but I agree yanbu.

I agree. Dc school have kept it in place because it saves so much time getting young kids dressed and undressed. It also seemed to stop the forgotten and lost PE kits.

Thereisnolight · 09/09/2022 18:47

1994girl · 09/09/2022 18:46

YABU. I'm 28; When I was in primary school we used to get changed in front of each other for PE. I've never heard of going to school in PE Kit. I don't see it being a problem.

But OP says some of the children don’t like doing it. Presumably they didn’t like it in your day either but didn’t feel they could speak up.

Darbs76 · 09/09/2022 18:48

At that age I don’t think the kids care, more the parents. Even as teenagers the kids need to get changed together, obviously male and female
separate at that age. I’d understand late primary if girls have begun periods I’d want separate changing facilities but at 7 I think parents are making a mountain out of a molehill

ChimChimeny · 09/09/2022 18:48

From year 3 or 4 the boys and girls were separated to get changed (DD's school have never done the coming in wearing PE kit thing) which is ok but a lot.of the girls now wear bras/crop.tops so feel.self conscious

lanthanum · 09/09/2022 18:49

I've never understood the argument about sitting around in sweaty PE kit. On non-PE days, plenty of kids will work up just as much (if not more) of a sweat running around at break and lunchtime, and nobody worries about that.

Phineyj · 09/09/2022 18:50

It's just practical, isn't it? And as for learning to change for secondary, all the secondaries I've taught at the kids come in changed for PE also! Saves changing time, saves lost property, saves embarrassment (with the exception of thr short skort brigade I suppose), one less set of school uniform needed. Win win. And I seriously doubt most school PE causes more sweating than sitting in a polyester uniform with a blazer on!

BabyDreamers · 09/09/2022 18:50

Yanbu op

MajesticElephant · 09/09/2022 18:54

I started my periods in year 5. I think it’s completely inappropriate for girls that age to be forced to change in front of boys.

ThanksItHasPockets · 09/09/2022 18:54

Marblessolveeverything · 09/09/2022 18:43

This is a baffling in the age of child protection. I don't know of this practice anywhere in Ireland and amazingly we don't have generations of people unable to dress themselves. Surely the time could be better spent.

On the contrary, I know of one very complex case where supervised PE changing was an importance source of evidence that a child was being physically abused. The safeguarding argument is pretty much the only one I accept in favour of preserving in-school changing, with the exception of EYFS where it is an important fine motor skill.

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/09/2022 18:57

Dippydinosaurus · 09/09/2022 18:35

It's a key skill in EYFS and due to covid they would have missed out. But having 30 PE kits in the class is something no teacher misses as well as wasting part of the PE lesson changing

I never felt it was a waste of a PE session. Learning to dress oneself is part of Physical Development and needs to be taught. Sadly not many parents seemed to take that on board and the first couple of weeks in Reception are spent encouraging children to even put their own coats on.

I retired a few years before Covid so it makes no difference to me now. Coming to school in PE kit would certainly make life easier but children need to learn to dress themselves at some point.

Mirrorcell · 09/09/2022 18:59

I agree, it’s a waste of pe time getting changed. I’d rather they ran about for an extra 10 mins.

There are girls who are wearing bras and have periods in year 5 and 6. Maybe year 4 too? It’s not appropriate to get changed in front of the boys. I think reception and Year 1 is possibly okay but year two upwards definitely not.

We may have done it in the 80s and 90s but it doesn’t mean it was right.

XtinaCaligulara · 09/09/2022 19:00

MajesticElephant · 09/09/2022 18:54

I started my periods in year 5. I think it’s completely inappropriate for girls that age to be forced to change in front of boys.

You know that a 7 year old isn't in year 5?

And that schools stop this in year 5 and 6 for this very reason

MardyBumm · 09/09/2022 19:01

As a teacher, I prefer children arriving at school in their PE kit. It is so much quicker starting a PE lesson and I'm not left with random clothes in my classroom. However, getting changed is a skill. Many of children don't know how to change because their parents do it for them (I'm in y2 and some still can't do it) and getting changed at school is their only opportunity to practise this skill, despite me asking the parents to let them change themselves at home.

nachoavocado · 09/09/2022 19:01

If the kids aren't happy to change in front of each other theu should be listened to not dismissed

Jedsnewstar · 09/09/2022 19:03

Newrumpus · 09/09/2022 18:16

Can you think of any differences between children and adults when it comes to getting undressed?

Children have no right to privacy? Is that what you mean.

Whatwouldscullydo · 09/09/2022 19:03

Goingforarun · 09/09/2022 18:42

Providing separate changing spaces sexualises children. Why would you do that?

Recognising puberty could be imminent fir sone kids ( year 3 is age 7 amd 8 after all) and providing a more appropriate setting is not sexualising children.

The wearing pe kit to school solved the issues of the infants taking for ever akd losing their stuff. And fir juniors it solved the issue of having to change amongst members of the opposite sex whilst your body was developing.

Its the best idea all round really.

OhmygodDont · 09/09/2022 19:03

It’s not like Pe is the only time children can learn to put their own clothes on now is it.

Its a waste of everyone’s time teacher and child when they could be doing Pe instead.

both primary’s have kept it in for some reason the secondary changed it but most other secondary’s here kept the come it in Pe kit. Since it’s all logos anyway.

with regards to seeing the children changing help identify abuse would they not just send children in boxer type briefs and a vest under their top. Thus covering just as much nearly as shorts and a top anyway.

Jalepenojello · 09/09/2022 19:04

I don’t think any child who is uncomfortable getting changed in a public setting should be forced to do so.

IrishladyNE · 09/09/2022 19:21

TeaAndBiscuitsAndWine · 09/09/2022 18:17

At this age they are some of them starting to get self conscious and aware of body differences and I think the school should respect that.

We had to go in the showers together after PE at 13. It was awful to fake notes to get out of PE to avoid the shower.