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Dog lurching at children in playground

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Jogonlogonpip · 06/09/2022 09:32

Would you say something to the owner of the dog or the school?

The rules of the school are that well-behaved dogs are allowed in the playground but this dog is a breed known for being aggressive and not good with children and the owner had no control over it.

It was on a lead but she was chatting and it was jumping up at little kids and lurching forward with no muzzle. It's not a banned breed in the UK but massive and typically used as guard dogs.

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Stellaris22 · 06/09/2022 13:17

I walk my dog to school, but DD is old enough to walk through the gates by herself. If I do need to go onto the grounds I tie my dog up where people won’t need to go near her. If anyone approaches her they’ve done it on purpose as you have to go past the gates.

Other children love my dog as she’s a softie and DD loves being greeted after school by her.

I don’t see an issue with dogs on the school run, much safer than parents rushing and driving dangerously.

NorthStarRising · 06/09/2022 13:18

All the schools I’ve taught at have a ‘no dogs in the playground’ rule. Signs and in the newsletter.
You always get some arses that don’t think it means them, but usually it’s self-policed by outraged parents and smug children pointing out that others are breaking rules. Playgrounds are for children. Including those who don’t want to be jumped at, barked at or otherwise involved with dogs.
Want to meet dogs? Go to the park.

Creativecrafts · 06/09/2022 13:22

I'm very surprised that dogs are allowed in a school playground. They shouldn't be. They're a recipe for disaster, with young children running around.

Notjusta · 06/09/2022 13:22

"Well behaved" is open to far too much interpretation. That's why schools usually just have a very clear no dogs in the playground rule. Anything else seems crazy!

Jogonlogonpip · 06/09/2022 13:27

SurpriseSurprise · 06/09/2022 12:31

I always loved it when I was at school (many moons ago) and parents brought the dogs with them. I think it teaches children how to behave around them. You’d be amazed how many children just run up to dogs and touch them. In those days the “poop and scoop” rule wasn’t really about either

The dog is probably excited to be waiting for it’s little human and is looking to see where it is. Surely a staff member at the school would’ve noticed something by now if it was really out of control and dangerous

I agree that dogs can be great for children. I have no issue with the well behaved dogs allowed rule. The problem I have is with is larger unruly dogs that could injure a child. It was a puppy and she could manage it but it's grown into a huge dog and she can't control it. It will get bigger, too.

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Ihaventgottimeforthis · 06/09/2022 13:29

A lead & collar is no guarantee of control over a big badly trained dog with an owner who isn't paying attention.
Collars can be slipped, leads pulled out of a hand, a child could wander within snapping distance.

Nanny0gg · 06/09/2022 13:31

Notjusta · 06/09/2022 13:22

"Well behaved" is open to far too much interpretation. That's why schools usually just have a very clear no dogs in the playground rule. Anything else seems crazy!

Not to mention the wee and poo that is likely to be deposited!

Mummyford · 06/09/2022 13:42

Notjusta · Today 13:22
"Well behaved" is open to far too much interpretation.

Exactly this. And as a dog owner and lover, I think it's madness to allow them in at all. Outside the gates for the school run, great. Actually in the playground, absolutely not. There are loads of people who are afraid of dogs and shouldn't have to be on school grounds with them unwillingly. Plus, isn't it a huge liability for the school?

Calphurnia88 · 06/09/2022 14:01

I'm really suprised that dogs would be allowed in a school playground.

As others have said, well behaved is open to interpretation, and a dog that might be well behaved in a home environment might not be when surrounded by dozens of screaming children.

Also... Poop.

This sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

SillyLittleBiscuit · 06/09/2022 14:03

Lunging dogs are usually either over excited, scared or aggressive. The playground is not the place for a reactive dog for anyone’s sake, including the dog.

mountainsunsets · 06/09/2022 14:46

Notjusta · 06/09/2022 13:22

"Well behaved" is open to far too much interpretation. That's why schools usually just have a very clear no dogs in the playground rule. Anything else seems crazy!

Exactly.

One person's idea of a well-behaved dog is another person's idea of a hellhound. A dog that jumps up at strangers isn't well-behaved. Whether it's due to excitement or aggression or fear is totally irrelevant.

Notanotherwindow · 06/09/2022 15:18

The problem is it's pulling on the lead and lurching towards children and it's a massive big guard type dog.
Do you think that's ok??

It's not behaviour I'd put up with from mine but I'd not be particularly bothered by anyone else's as long as its leashed, I don't have to go near it. Its not like its being aggressive.

bellabasset · 06/09/2022 15:40

I've had several dogs and the last one was a border bearded collie cross and she had a habit of 'herding'. She was well behaved with my dh but I struggled with her. I've since learnt to be firmer with my ndn's dogs when I have them.

I live in a village a few minutes from the local school. Parents aren't allowed in the playground so it's not an issue here. But we do have to recognise that some children - and their parents - are nervous of dogs so maybe not in the playground. Perhaps a video of the dog's behaviour might be useful

Surtsey · 06/09/2022 15:46

WTF? Dogs should not be allowed in playgrounds at all.

MissMaple82 · 06/09/2022 15:50

Bananarama21 · 06/09/2022 09:34

No dogs should be in the playground at all that's appalling of the school. I girl got mauled by a dog at my primary school when she went to pet a dog at the gates.

It's very normal these days. Well behaved dogs are allowed in.playgrounds. lots of people walk to school with theor dogs

MissMaple82 · 06/09/2022 15:52

catandcoffee · 06/09/2022 12:25

Can the people who walk their dog to school explain why ?

Two birds one stone!! Busy lives!!!

MissMaple82 · 06/09/2022 15:58

It's not safe to leave dogs tied up to railings anymore, plus your not in control of the dog then, there's no ossie with walking in with a well behaved dog, takes all of a couple of minutes! Honestly, mountings out of molehills. It's normal at our school, kids love it too, amd those who don't essential need to learn to live in a world that involves coming into contact with dogs from tome to time!

NCHammer2022 · 06/09/2022 17:08

MissMaple82 · 06/09/2022 15:52

Two birds one stone!! Busy lives!!!

If taking a dog in the playground is the only option your life is too busy to have one.

RedHelenB · 06/09/2022 18:25

Isaidnoalready · 06/09/2022 09:33

Contact the school they will probably ban all dogs

This. Makes things much simpler.

mountainsunsets · 06/09/2022 18:44

Notanotherwindow · 06/09/2022 15:18

The problem is it's pulling on the lead and lurching towards children and it's a massive big guard type dog.
Do you think that's ok??

It's not behaviour I'd put up with from mine but I'd not be particularly bothered by anyone else's as long as its leashed, I don't have to go near it. Its not like its being aggressive.

And this is the problem.

Too many owners don't see an issue with a dog lunging on a lead around small children. Much easier to just ban dogs altogether than to go down the road of believing what owners' say about their behaviour.

If your dog lunges and jumps up on the lead, it shouldn't be in a school.

JubileeTissues · 06/09/2022 18:54

Define well behaved. You can't, it's open to interpretation.

Therefore, all dogs should be banned from the playground

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