To not be impressed that Liz Truss is our Prime Minister

[lucielou82]

I keep reading tweets from Tory MPs waxing lyrical about how great and progressive it is that we have our third female Tory PM and how amazing it is, considering Labour hasn’t even had a female leader of their party.

As a woman I am not excited to see Liz Truss as Prime Minister. She is not progressive and definitely is not an advocate for women’s rights (she wants to give tax cuts to stay at home mothers FFS, but is ignoring the cost of childcare crisis forcing so many women out of work)! I don’t see Liz Truss as an inspiration or an allie, I see her as a puppet of the patriarchy.

Hopefully one day we will have a female PM who will truly fight for women’s equality and rights and will break down the walls the patriarchy have built up! Please tell me I’m not the only one who feels like this?

If you don't work you can transfer some of your tax allowance to your spouse, so a tax cut already exists. Maybe Liz is unaware of this. 😂

We always say that, and then realise that someone in labour has forgotten to action it. And I speak as a labour voter.

I am terrified about what she said about pressing the nuclear button.

But doesn't help already exist for families with low income? Tax credits/ universal credit?

I'm wondering if boarding school type set up might be better for babies.
Caught between men's work prerogatives and women's rights to work I think a sort of boarding for babies set up might be better.

The parent's can drop in and see them when they want but it will enable both the high earners to focus on their career.

Sorry, I didn't mean "action it" that doesn't make sense. I meant that however bad the conservatives get, labour still doesn't get voted in.

Still terrified about the nuclear button thing though.

If I had been asked to choose one of the female Tory leadership candidates, it would not have been Liz Truss.

This is true. There could also be training for the babies in relation to Tory ideology so that when they are released into society at 18 they won't cause any problems.

O dear the woman has just not even done anything yet and someone has to whinge she is not ‘progressive’ whatever that silly word means today. Just give her a few months and then let’s form a judgment. We can only look at the loonies on the other side and think what we might be in for if they get in. Let’s face it, their leader can’t even define what a woman is!

Ah crap, thank you i will!

Sorts out the energy crisis?! What do you mean by this? That energy prices are brought down again so that we can carry on consuming as ever before, to hell with the consequences and the damage to the planet?

It's absolutely astonishing that the self-serving Tory électorate have voted in yet again someone who has zero green credentials and is intending to cut the green levy because, well because why rush into doing something to save the planet. We really are living in the age of stupid.

I agree with a pp we are f*ked. What vision does LT bring? What great strategy or philosophy does she espouse ? What are her ideological viewpoints on the big questions and how does she plan to take the country forward in a progressive way without isolating everyone but her core support?

This country is in dire need of a visionary, someone who understands the big questions on a global level but who also appreciates that we need to carry everyone with us. We are tired of the climate being the token gesture used by politicians when it suits them and forgotten about the rest of the time, we want and are willing to change our ways so that we can save the planet. When will someone represent the normal, average views of people like me?.

I wish, I so wish Labour presented themselves as a credible alternative. I say this as someone who used to canvass for them once upon a time. They're so mired in internal politics they have no grasp of how to move forward. Jeremy Corbyn, for all his failings, was at least a visionary with principles who would never have let us be part of the ridiculous, capitalist exploitative energy crisis we are now experiencing and he would have done something about it while keeping the environment front and centre of policy decisions.

As someone who has always tried to engage people politically I feel so apathetic about the state of affairs. I'd like to opt out of the whole thing and live alone on an island. I have no faith in LT.

lol... "if she sorts out the energy crisis" indeed!

How's she going to sort out the energy crisis?

She is a Tory and Tory policies got us into this mess.

She's been in high up government roles for many years, fulfilling them without distinction.

The rest of your post is the same old tired twaddle.

Nope. It was the policies of successive governments that did it reaching back to Blair. That her wanted to invest n nuclear power but the green lobby howled and politicians gave into them. So we were left with inefficient wind farms. Then of course Putin’s war.

These threads are so sexist. A woman couldn't have achieved this through her own work. She must be some kind of puppet of men! Lol.

I like her so far. Big improvement on Boris. Very diverse and interesting cabinet. Let's see how it goes!

Let’s face it, anyone would be an improvement in Boris. Not exactly a high bar!

"Let's give Cameron a chance"
"Let's give May a chance"
"Let's give Johnson a chance"

Yeah, I'm sure it'll be different this time.

Clearly posted on the wrong thread!!!

I’m prepared to at least give her a chance. I don’t really care what political stripe someone is or how much they’ve flip flopped about in the past as long as they’re doing the right things now and as far as I can see so far, she’s doing OK with an energy price cap announcement tomorrow. As for the rest, I’m happy to wait and see before I judge.

All the “We’re fucked!!!!” hyperbole is getting very tiresome. It’s making the “We’re doooomed” chap from Dad’s Army look like a bastion of positivity.

I'm also prepared to give her and her policies a chance, but when you hear conservatives such as Phillip Hammond and Rishi sunak say that it's doubtful these policies are the right thing to do in the current climate , I start to worry a lot I'm afraid
The borrowing she will have to sign off is enormous.
I guess time will tell , but it's all very precarious

when you hear conservatives such as...Rishi Sunak say that it's doubtful these policies are the right thing to do in the current climate

Would that be the Rishi Sunak who she's just beaten to be PM? I mean, he's hardly going to say "Yes, her policies are great", is he...?

To be fair he’s been saying it for months. He described her economic policies as fairytale right at the beginning of the leadership campaign. Frankly I’m astonished there’s so much approval of profligate borrowing which would be jeered at if the opposition suggested it. Now we have the situation where Labour is the more fiscally responsible. Who’d ever have predicted that?

This is my take

This.

@YoniWheretheSunDontShine great idea! What about the middle earners/single mothers who want to work to provide for their children?

Liz Truss is the 'Iron weather vane '