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A parking thread! Builders as neighbours - street full of vans

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pensterino · 04/09/2022 19:28

Thoughts please on how to deal with this. We've just moved house and now discovered that at least four of our near neighbours are running building businesses from their homes. I don't mind about that, but I do mind that they leave their vans on the street.

The houses are 1920s semis with enough space in front to park. We just have one parking space but many of our neighbours - including all the builders - have taken out their entire front gardens, and dropped the full length of the kerb, in order to park three vehicles. That means that on street parking is at a bit of a premium. And when these vans are parked in the street it's really difficult to get in and out of our drive because they block our view of the street both ways.

Things to bear in mind:

  • Our house has a covenant saying no businesses to be run from home, mustn't be a nuisance. Their houses, built at the same time, presumably have the same covenant (enforceable I think by the council.)
  • I am absolutely pro small business, and if it were only one there wouldn't be a problem. But four are too many for the street to absorb.
  • I've only just moved here and I really don't want to be the problem neighbour myself (or at least, be viewed as the problem neighbour)!
OP posts:
SoftwareDev · 04/09/2022 19:32

I live in a new build estate with certain covenants. Numerous ones have been broken so I contacted the agents responsible for maintaining the communal areas etc. They basically sent out a "reminder letter" to the households which was completely ignored. They then washed their hands of it and told me I'd have to raise a private court case to take it any further! I do not have the time to do this.

I suspect your local council may be equally uninterested.

NewIdeasToday · 04/09/2022 19:32

I can see why this is annoying. But I’d they didn’t have all the vans these houses could easily have several cars each so the parking situation wouldn’t necessarily be any better.

What would you expect to happen if you complain? Do you think they’ll close their businesses? Or go and park outside someone else’s house? And how would that be any fairer?

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 04/09/2022 19:33

Yabu - due to not posting a diagram!
yanbu in reality, but nothing you can do about it. On our street the same scenario (small, run from home businesses) has escalated into full out parking wars with bollards being deployed to save spaces and dvla being called in on a regular basis.

Stopthebusplease · 04/09/2022 19:34

If you don't want to be viewed as the problem neighbour then don't be the problem neighbour. Surely to goodness you visited the place before you moved in? In which case you must have been aware of the parking problems and builders vans. However, if you didn't do your due diligence, then you really shouldn't complain. Ever heard the term 'Buyer Beware'?

CoraContrary · 04/09/2022 19:37

I wouldn't say that running a building business is running a business from home. They run their business where they build and their address is likely to be the accountants address.

It sounds like you've purchased the wrong king of house If you wanted to live somewhere that people didn't park on the road or you had a space that's definitively yours. Most estates nowadays have cars surplus to space and most houses have two cars. If they didn't have a van, they'd likely have another car anyway.

You're completely unreasonable to move into a street and (want to) tell people they aren't parking as they should.

Meraas · 04/09/2022 19:37

Report the fuck out of all of them, I say.

Octomore · 04/09/2022 19:40

CoraContrary · 04/09/2022 19:37

I wouldn't say that running a building business is running a business from home. They run their business where they build and their address is likely to be the accountants address.

It sounds like you've purchased the wrong king of house If you wanted to live somewhere that people didn't park on the road or you had a space that's definitively yours. Most estates nowadays have cars surplus to space and most houses have two cars. If they didn't have a van, they'd likely have another car anyway.

You're completely unreasonable to move into a street and (want to) tell people they aren't parking as they should.

This. The van is the vehicle they use for their business, but they aren't "running a business from home".

Tbh it's pure snobbery to turn your nose up at someone parking a work van on the street, but be okay with a car.

Octomore · 04/09/2022 19:42

Our house has a covenant saying no businesses to be run from home, mustn't be a nuisance.

Given that they aren't actually running the business from home (their business will be conducted on the building sites they work at), how exactly is it a nuisance?

A580Hojas · 04/09/2022 19:46

Sounds horrible. I'd hate to live in a street where so many houses have no front garden and 3 vans parked on the drive.

Annonnimoouse42 · 04/09/2022 19:49

sounds bloody fab for finding a buider. like hens teeth these days

skippy67 · 04/09/2022 19:51

They're not "running a business from home" though, are they? They live in their homes, and work on sites/ houses elsewhere. So YABU.

LampLighter414 · 04/09/2022 19:52

Pay one of the builders to do the same as their homes - make your front garden into a driveway and get the council to drop the kerb across the whole frontage. Job done - nice wide drive to go in and out of.

HipsterCoffeeShop · 04/09/2022 19:53

Annonnimoouse42 · 04/09/2022 19:49

sounds bloody fab for finding a buider. like hens teeth these days

Yeah, this

Whatever you do don't fall out with them - I'm sure your name would be mud among the trades locally if you started having a go about the parking.

Inertia · 04/09/2022 20:01

You may need to play the same game, and pay to get a dropped kerb all across your front garden in order to fit in additional parking space .

OstrichFeet · 04/09/2022 20:01

A580Hojas · 04/09/2022 19:46

Sounds horrible. I'd hate to live in a street where so many houses have no front garden and 3 vans parked on the drive.

Well jolly good for you , not everyone has that option

fyn · 04/09/2022 20:05

The likelihood of a covenant from 1920 being enforced is almost zero. Vans being parked legally on a public street isn’t a nuisance.

JumpinJacques · 04/09/2022 20:07

I would hate this. The problem is that they have other vehicles as well as the vans.

We did a drive by on a lovely house we were interested in viewing, the cul de sac was absolutely choc-a-block with work vans on the street (and driveways with cars), so that ruled it out for us. You could barely drive up, turn around and drive back down it was that bad. I was just glad we went on the weekend, and not in the middle of the day when they'd likely not have been there and it would have looked like a lovely quiet street.

pipping · 04/09/2022 20:09

Are the really running their businesses from home? It’s no different to an employed person bringing a van home surely?

you sound like a terrible snob and awful neighbour tbh

CaptainSamCarter · 04/09/2022 20:14

Don't make a complaint about it. It will just make things awkward for yourself. You'll have to sort your own front out to get yourself a bigger drive. And next time you buy a house, research a bit better!

Arbesque · 04/09/2022 20:17

Stopthebusplease · 04/09/2022 19:34

If you don't want to be viewed as the problem neighbour then don't be the problem neighbour. Surely to goodness you visited the place before you moved in? In which case you must have been aware of the parking problems and builders vans. However, if you didn't do your due diligence, then you really shouldn't complain. Ever heard the term 'Buyer Beware'?

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girlmom21 · 04/09/2022 20:21

You're upset because people are parking on their drives? Was the road mysteriously empty when you went to view? Did you not notice all the large driveways?

Hoppinggreen · 04/09/2022 20:23

skippy67 · 04/09/2022 19:51

They're not "running a business from home" though, are they? They live in their homes, and work on sites/ houses elsewhere. So YABU.

If the registered Business address is the same as their home address then they are actually running a business from home

RandomUsernameHere · 04/09/2022 20:28

If they're not parking illegally then there's probably not much you can do about it unfortunately. They should have had planning permission to drop the kerbs, you could always find out if it was obtained.

NoSquirrels · 04/09/2022 20:28

I think there’s sweet FA you can do about this. Sorry.

The covenants preventing ‘running a business from home’ aren’t going to apply to builders - they’re not using the premises to entertain clients etc., they’re just parking a vehicle they use to work. Those covenants are usually mostly unenforceable anyway.

I think this is a ‘suck it up, buttercup’ sort of situation, I’m afraid.

JaniceBattersby · 04/09/2022 20:29

Where do you expect self-employed builders to park their vans? Or should there not be any self-employed builders?

Your house price is partly based on local availability of parking, the look of surrounding properties etc. If you want to live somewhere where there are longer driveways and more places to park vehicles then you should have forked our more money.

The chances of a 1920s covenant being enforced are literally zero.

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