To suggest cyclists need to be licensed

[savethebeesandthecees]

And also pay Road Tax and risk having their licence revoked for misuse.

I'm saying this as a pedestrian. Nearly hit again by a cyclist going through a red light. Others routinely mount the pavement to swerve red lights. I'm sick of it. If I film them as evidence, so what? What are the consequences?

Something needs to change.

Highway code says you should overtake using oncoming lane when safe to do so. If unsafe to do so wait until it is. The two cyclists in front are traffic and have as much right to be there as you and are advised to ride side by side to make it quicker to overtake (Only overtaking one bike length rather than two).

Because I hadn’t realised I could, until it was too late. This is about 12 years ago. I understand that the limit was 6 years. My insurance company was spectacularly unhelpful, and the cyclist was a student, and had no cash to give

that’s unfortunate that you were not aware, but to then why didn’t your insurance pay?

And you clearly are doing the same for motorists
Read my 1st post and you will see that it relates to cyclists in a specific area
You are intimating I was lying about incident. I was not. Perhaps you lie to make a point and therefore think that everyone else does. Not so.
Or were you in a debating society that believed anyone with a counter arguement was lying?
But you and your warped imagination can believe what you want.

You could try looking before crossing the road?

perhaps read this @Alexandra2001

You only ever notice the bad cyclists (or as a dear friend called them... 'people on bikes'). You never notice the countless ones who go by the rules of the road.

As a pedestrian, I always take the time to check the coast is clear. Car drivers can be twats and go through red lights too. There was a moped rider in my area who was always going through red lights. He got killed doing just that.

I think at least some sort of competency test to cycle in busy city centres would be good.

FWIW I've invariably found that I feel safest cycling in city centres, especially in London, because
A) the traffic is moving more slowly
B) drivers expect to see cyclists, so look out for them
C) there are often, nowadays, good quality segregated cycling facilities

The scariest places of all to cycle are single track country lanes where drivers fly around blind bends and are surprised to find an cyclist in front of them.

If so many people on bikes cycle through red lights, why aren’t hundreds being killed doing so? Logic would stipulate that they’d get killed as other traffic is following on green?

Do people just step out onto a the road without checking both ways? regardless of the state of the lights?
I was taught that not all cars stop at a RED ... being in the right doesn't help if your dead or seriously injured.

Anyone who jumps lights needs to be prosecuted, its a very stupid thing to do & highly dangerous for a cyclist.

I do see the logic behind a registration scheme, after all i was knocked off my bicycle by a Dog that was let out of the car by its owner, it just charged across the lane, the owner just got back in his car and drove off, i didn't get the reg plate and so what if i did? with no witness, he'd just deny it.

So i can understand someone's anger at a cyclist who causes an accident and rides off.

But the problem is with uninsured car drivers (approx 1m) and hit n runs, having large reg plates and compulsory ins doesn't stop 17000 hit n runs in the UK, with about 8% solved.

If more people got out of their cars, they'd be happier, fitter and perhaps not direct so much anger at a tiny minority.

Absolutely Alex. Dh and I between us have been hit by cars or vans 3 times while on our bikes we have never hit anyone! The drivers in all 3 cases were totally at fault and were so upset crying etc in two cases Dh and I ended up comforting them! Dh had cuts bruises and broken ribs I just had bruises thankfully all separate incidents

I was knocked off my bike by a dog who was not on a lead, the dog walker couldn't have cared less. I required a new helmet as mine cracked from the impact (thank God for helmets, wouldn't like to have saw my head had I not worn one). My bike was scratched, some of the contents of my bag were damaged. So should dogs / dog walkers have special insurance and number plates too? And pay 'road tax'? Unfortunately anyone can behave dangerously, whether they are walking, on a bike or driving a vehicle.

There’s a perception of “all cyclists are bad” that really annoys me.

Last week I cycled carefully past a 4yo who was balancing on the line between a split path. Didn’t use my bell as from my experience of 4yo’s she would have ignored it and her dad was pushing a buggy. He still shouted at me to use my bell!

I know that if my friend had been one of those cheeky red light jumpers, she would have got ahead of the lorry that turned left and killed her.

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I'm both a cyclist and a driver.

From what I observe, cyclists and car drivers tend to jump red lights in very different ways.

Not a week goes by without me seeing a car driver jump a red light - and it's almost always someone trying to accelerate through an amber. It is not done with care or attention.

When I see cyclists jumping red lights, it's always with great caution, having actually checked that they're not going to cause a collision. After all, they're going to be the first ones to get hurt if they do cause a crash. In some cases it's safer - for instance, if there's a lorry pulled up behind you and you think you're in their blind spot, you can easily be crushed when they turn left.

Ultimately where there are complete morons on wheels, I'd prefer they were on a bike than in a car as their capacity to cause damage on a bike is so much less.

Cyclists should be allowed to treat red lights as a stop line, free to proceed once you've "stopped" at the light

@thereisonlyoneofme I hate electric scooters and and have seen people. really speeding on pavements.,

I am a walker, cyclist and motorist and am law abiding to the point of being a goody two shoes. I do think that the Lycra clad blokes who think they are in the Tour De France are the biggest PITA of all groups. Out for my Sunday bike ride I saw two of them side by side chatting going at real speed coming towards me, this was on a road wide enough so is legal. You know I don’t care if it’s legal it’s dangerous. They are not concentrating, cars get stuck behind them so get inpatient.They give cyclists a bad name.

road.cc/content/news/cyclist-hit-driver-given-fake-phone-number-295699?amp

Classic 🙄

It really does make a good argument for a helmet cam. I've had a few (no fault) knocks in my car and tend to take photos of the offending car and scene with my phone.

Cyclists would be well advised to do the same but appreciate the adrenaline would take over and is easy to forget.

Personally I'd very much favour a mandatory dog owner registration scheme (I think that microchipping is already compulsory) complete with a DNA database so that the filthy f#&*ers who don't pick up can be easily traced.

They ought to be allowed to turn left on a red. Am I right in thinking that in France traffic lights at junctions have diamond symbols on them to permit cyclists to turn right on a red?

I've thought about a camera before but it feels a bit morbid, like that's what's gonna record me getting pole axed, not gonna be a very funny video.

I've been hit pretty badly hit (and incredibly lucky to not be injured) by a guy undertaking the van that was giving me alot of space approaching a roundabout.

Didn't even occur to me to take his number plate, name etc as I'd just been slammed off my bike and narrowly avoided being run over by a bus after getting launched out onto the roundabout. Luckily he was a decent type and made sure I had all his details and offered to call the police on himself. He insisted I take his details incase any injury came to light. Genuine star (except for the running me over bit)

In some countries you can do that in cars. It's a way more sensible system full stop. Australia has designated junctions where you can turn left at a red light

In contrast my most recent was a hit and run where someone who s stopped at a red light just proceeded to drive when it went green despite the fact there was a vehicle (me) in front of them.

She drove into the back of me, snarled up my back wheel and the bike kind of fell away from under me. I cartwheel over the bar, she stops, then pretends to pull over and then sped off