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Would You Continue With This Relationship?

38 replies

DoubleCherry · 03/09/2022 16:13

I'll try to summarise. I met a guy through a shared hobby some years ago and was immediately attracted to him. He seemed to be single but he never asked me out, despite being (confirmed by everyone who knew either him or me) being flirtatious and clearly liking me. He seemed to get jealous when he saw me with another guy.

Eventually, he did ask me out, only to change his mind (by text). We continued with the hobby, and to see each other through that a couple of times per week. I remained attracted to him but always had some sort of "feeling" about him that made me nervous. He seemed to act strangely at times, at other times was really frieendly/flirtatious, at other times would completely blanked me. He then asked me out properly. I said no, because I was bothered by his odd behaviour. It then turned out that he had a long term girlfriend - a mutual male friend told me he had mentioned bringing her to his party and he contacted me because he thought there was something between us and he was really surprised he had never mentioned this girlfriend. Apparently, it was long distance.

About a year later, really curious, I contacted him, he asked me out and assuming that he was now single, we went on a date. I assumed the girlfriend was no more. Seemed to be getting on really well, at the end of it, I tried to hold his hand and he said "Sorry, but I'm not really into dating or stuff like that". I asked him about the gf and he said they had split up a while ago. I was mortified and we parted. Later on, I wondered if he had just been looking for a one night hook up.

Still the flirting and attraction through the mutual hobby continued, I contacted him about a year later to meet up for a coffee, we then saw each other a few more times on dates, he invited me round for dinner, we did the deed, we saw each other a few more times, including dates not just sex, everything going great, getting on really well, no arguments, and then he dumped me out of the blue by text. I more or less forced him to meet up for a coffee to do it in person and he was kind of confident and a bit cocky, different from what he was when we had been dating. He was saying all sorts of weird stuff about how he "didn't do relationships" and was unreliable, and not to bother with him, etc.. At this point I should say that he comes across as the most reliable man around, very quiet, a little nerdy, somewhat shy. Always treats me well, not extravagant but not mean either. We just get on well.

A few weeks later, a mutual female friend told me she had gone on a couple of dates with him after matching online around the time he dumped me, she had no reason to believe he wasn't single, he never mentioned me and he dumped her. I don't know if they slept together, I didn't want to hear the answer as it was still quite raw. She was quite mortified.

A couple of years later, we bump into each other, went for a coffee, he invited me round for dinner, I stayed the night and we have now been dating for the past few months, but I still have doubts. I am really attracted to this man and we get on great, but I have these nagging doubts about him and the way he has behaved, nothing I can put my finger on but....but then again, when I am with him, everything is perfect and I've never been happier. Its possible to say that now he is a little older and has been given a nice flat by his parents - he doesn't work full time but does a few hours yoga teaching and fitness training), he feels more able to commit to a relationship.

Again, theres nothing I can put my finger on and he really is behaving like the ideal boyfriend, very considerate, kind and passionate in the bedroom. But I can feel myself disappearing down a rabbit hole and becoming more withdrawn - he drops little things into conversation about how he doesn't like to socialise and "doesn't like people" and we end up more and more just staying in and watching Netflix. He's kind of all consuming but I feel I can't relax because he will let me down again. If I attempt to talk about it with him, he is niceness personified and extremely apologetic, saying he was younger then. But he then moves the conversation quickly on.

Its just very hard to get a handle on him. What do others thing? Why do I have these feelings? I haven't been insecure in relationships before (only had 2 serious ones other than this!). Basically, I'm wondering if I should continue with this relationship or if he is going to let me down again.

OP posts:
eighteenmonthstogo · 03/09/2022 19:43

OP that's because they actually know him and have spoken to him unlike the people on here.. who automatically assume any man who is less than perfect from the start has 'red flags' (God I hate that overused expression)

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 03/09/2022 19:46

There's a limit to how much humiliation I can take in the pursuit of a man and if you were me you would have passed it several years ago by the sound of things.

If a man likes you, he will bend over backwards to see you. He is not the one.

Abitofalark · 03/09/2022 20:02

OP, You are questioning and seeing what has been going on, which is not easy to do when you are in the middle of it. You see that the first time he did the text thing was when you should have given up on him - female psychology means that we don't always. Thing is, he did that twice and cutting out someone by text is a brutal thing to do. Now lurking in your mind is that you don't trust his character and are waiting for a third. Understandably.

But your notion of the perfect boyfriend doesn't make sense to me. He previously rebuffed your attempts at romance, handholding for example, behaved oddly, repeatedly emphasised his dislike of people and relationships, which indicates a desire for distance. This IS odd behaviour. You don't even see him every week. To me, that makes him Mr Elusive, Mr Detached, Mr Keeping At Arm's Length. That's avoidance, not commitment. It may be that he has an avoidant personality or that there is some other factor at play, such as wanting to keep options open for other liaisons or even that there is a deeper reason which you said others had speculated about.

An ideal boyfriend is embracing, enthusiastic, warm, wanting to be with you at least every week and having potential for a future. I also don't get why you mention he would keep coming back if you broke off from him. How so? You'd been the one re opening contact and liaison - over a period of years. You know the old quip A woman pursues a man until he catches her. What makes you think Mr Aloof would suddenly turn into Mr Passionate Suitor? Realistically, the indications don't seen to lie in that direction. And if he did, would you even be tempted to get back with such an absent unreliable character, when what you want is a more solid presence in a man?

DoubleCherry · 03/09/2022 21:57

eighteenmonthstogo · 03/09/2022 19:43

OP that's because they actually know him and have spoken to him unlike the people on here.. who automatically assume any man who is less than perfect from the start has 'red flags' (God I hate that overused expression)

Yes, I get that and sometimes its difficult to know what to do for the best. But everyone I know who has been in that position (with an immature man who has messed them around and then got back together) has had the man running after them to persuade them to try again because they've had enough. So he can do that if I mean anything to him, but I am going to let it fade out.

He's really hurt me several times and I can't take it again. He was actually horrible when he got that phone call - he immediately lost interest in me, even though I was in the room with him, I felt as if I should leave his house or something because I felt as if I was intruding. He went cold and dismissive in the blink of an eye and then went into the other room to take the call. When he came back I asked him if it was something important, and he brushed me off and refused to answer. He was then cold and odd and then immediately wanted sex and then seemed to hurry me out a bit the next morning, rather than spending most of the day together.

There just always seems to be some drama with him when things are going well.

ABitOfALark What makes you think Mr Aloof would suddenly turn into Mr Passionate Suitor?

Because he actually has done! Thats what he's like. Its like he's read the Perfect Boyfriend Manual or something, he says the right things when we are together, he seems really into me, but it just doesn't all add up. I don't see him often enough, and given that he has a history of lying in the past which I have stupidly overlooked, I have a really bad gut instinct. I feel nervous about seeing him and a little scared, and I thought that was just excitement at finally having a proper relationship with him, but it isn't fading. I always feel on edge, that I have to be careful to show my absolute best when I'm with him, and I can't relax.

I've been thinking back about what he did before and he is a cheat. He's basically cheated on me twice, even though he makes it sound good by dumping me. I didn't trust my gut instinct about him before, yet it was absolutely right, and I should never have got involved with him again.

If he's bothered, he can do something to fix it, but I'm just not going to contact him and once he eventually gets in touch, I'm going to say it isn't working out because he isn't making me feel secure enough in the relationship.

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blockpavingismynightmare · 03/09/2022 22:01

He's not honest for starters and he has other relationships so why even bother ?

Silvercurtains · 03/09/2022 22:11

Too many women make excuses for good looking men who treat women badly. I think you need to work on your self esteem if you can’t see that you deserve better. You’re wasting your time with him and have admittedly turned down possible other healthy relationships for this self centred man child.

Abitofalark · 03/09/2022 23:12

That's horrible behaviour around the phone call and it shows the complete imbalance - who has the power and who has the fear. You mentioned the sudden cold treatment which reminds me you said he'd done sudden blanking at the beginning of your involvement years ago, so the switching is not new.
It's something that men often do when they are cheating, mainly for sex rather than a real loving affair. They have something to hide, that they also feel guilty about. The coldness, dismissal or complete impersonal cutting off is very disturbing and would leave a woman feeling hurt and bewildered.
I am so glad you are realising the hurtful and destabilising nature of what you have been dealing with and are strong enough to ditch him.

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 03/09/2022 23:56

It sounds like he's using one of those systems so called "incels" use to trick women into liking them.
The DENNIS method springs to mind.

Jibbajabba1 · 04/09/2022 02:44

What is the Dennis method?

Fraaahnces · 04/09/2022 03:33

at best he is flaky… but I really think he’s a misogynist jerk who likes the whole power trip. You can and will do better with someone who doesn’t make you anxious and is actually invested in you as a person, not just someone he happens to eat with and shag.

Rainbowqueeen · 04/09/2022 03:46

What kind of relationship do you want OP? I’d start there.

I would not be interested in this guy because I like men who have ambition, work hard and are financially literate. I also like men who like to go out places and who are interested in seeing me 2-4 times a week.

So I’d ditch based on the very minimal standard that I have.

Then his history would make me run for the hills.

I would also be looking for a permanent relationship. Everything you’ve said about him screams commitmentphobe.

Move on

coolcahuna · 04/09/2022 03:46

Don't go there! If it didn't work out before, why will it work now ? I've just given someone a third chance which is totally ridiculous. Similar story line to yours but has ended even worse that expected.

Mine was cheating the entire time and we've just finished by blocking each other which is horrible.

He will do it again..He's not changed just because he has a flat.

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 04/09/2022 04:00

eighteenmonthstogo · 03/09/2022 19:43

OP that's because they actually know him and have spoken to him unlike the people on here.. who automatically assume any man who is less than perfect from the start has 'red flags' (God I hate that overused expression)

"Less than perfect" is quite a stretch for this guy!

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